So the request would be to put it in README and make a new package, right? There has been somebody committing changes to the 2.1 branch. @Artyom: You have been committing changes to the 2.1 branch that will now subsequently be part of any new RC candidate. Namely: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1496776[OPENMEETINGS-687] and http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1498438 [no Jira]
(at least that are all changes that happened in that branch as far as I can judge). So we need to re-test and verify the new RC 2 for the version 2.1.1 as its not just a change in the README it is more then that. And the Release notes need to be updated with the addition of OPENMEETINGS-687. And something about the "remotelog.upload": By viewing at the source code I discovered that there is no sessionId check in the servlet request (see UploadController.java around line 144). I would suggest adding the sessionId into the Post parameters and check that the request really comes from a valid user session. Cause actually aynbody that know the URL: http://demo.dataved.ru/openmeetings/remote.upload and knows that it will expect a single Post parameter with the name "message" can write _whatever_ content he likes to our log files, for example flood the server with log messages. So potentially when he is using the max_post_size he can write the disk full in a couple of minutes and the OpenMeetings server is dead. >From my point of view it would make sense to simply pass the sessionid with the request, as with every other request, and verify that the sessionId belongs to a valid user session with ever request to that method. Thanks, Sebastian 2013/7/2 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> > I think README is ok. > > -- > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > http://dataved.ru/ > +7 916 562 8095 > > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, http://openmeetings.apache.org/ > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings > > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Should it be in NOTES or README or both? > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Alexei Fedotov < > [email protected]>wrote: > > > >> Are there any objections to the following text? > >> > >> --- > >> Video/audio SIP integration is no longer a part of Apache release. > >> Check free red5sip product for this integration. > >> > >> We also introduced reliability testing for this release (great job, > >> Vasily Degtyarev!) For 1 hour long conferences the following does not > >> work with Openmeetings 2.1.1: > >> * Recordigs > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-669 > >> * Recent version with Adobe Flash (please downgrade to 11.5 version) > >> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=885188 > >> * Multi-tabbing (no other flash application should be running in > >> different browsers or tabs) > >> --- > >> 26.06.2013 12:17 пользователь "Maxim Solodovnik" <[email protected]> > >> написал: > >> > >> > @Alexei, I believe red5sip issues should not affect OM release cycle. > >> > > >> > I was planning to release 2.1.1RC1. > >> > Please let me know if RC2 should be packed. (I see no need for this > right > >> > now) > >> > > >> > In case README and/or NOTICE need to be changed I would really > appreciate > >> > if anybody will send me the new text. > >> > > >> > > >> > On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 3:15 PM, [email protected] < > >> > [email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> > > I know from the past that you have been not allowed to use the same > >> > device > >> > > in multiple Flash Applications at the same time. > >> > > In the past it was for example even like that: > >> > > If a microphone or camera device was taken, the Flash Plagin > >> *magically* > >> > > knew it and any further request to Microphone.get(); would return a > >> list > >> > of > >> > > Microphone _except_ the one that is already in use. > >> > > > >> > > So what I can confirm is: There have been problems already in the > past > >> > > where you could not use the same Microphone in multiple Flash > >> > Applications > >> > > on the same device (no matter if you do that in multiple tabs or in > IE > >> > and > >> > > Firefox). > >> > > > >> > > A general rule is: Only one application at a time should access the > >> > > Microphone (or Camera). For instance: Skype and OpenMeetings should > not > >> > run > >> > > parallel and both use the Microphone at the same time (an exception > >> might > >> > > be if you really have two microphone devices physically with two > >> > separated > >> > > drivers et cetera). > >> > > > >> > > But I always thought that would be more like a common knowledge, its > >> > > actually true for any kind of Video-Conferencing or WebChat > >> application, > >> > > not even for browser or Flash related applications: Only one > >> application > >> > at > >> > > the same time should use Microphone or Camera. > >> > > > >> > > Sebastian > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > 2013/6/25 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> > >> > > > >> > > > Sebastian, > >> > > > > >> > > > My best guess about multi-tabs root cause is un-synchronized > access > >> to > >> > > > video/audio coding internals (decoding works well) and inside > Flash > >> > > > and device drivers. This makes crashes unpredictable. > >> > > > > >> > > > -- > >> > > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > >> > > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > >> > > > http://dataved.ru/ > >> > > > +7 916 562 8095 > >> > > > > >> > > > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, > >> > > http://openmeetings.apache.org/ > >> > > > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, > >> http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ > >> > > > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, > >> > http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 4:58 AM, [email protected] > >> > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > > * Multi-tabbing (no other flash application should be running in > >> > > > different > >> > > > > browsers or tabs)* > >> > > > > "This is a well-known problem with Flash on Linux" > >> > > > > => Then the sentence might be more like: > >> > > > > " Running multiple instance of OpenMeetings or Flash > applications > >> on > >> > > > Linux > >> > > > > can cause issues with the stability of the Flash Plugin" > >> > > > > > >> > > > > My problem is more the general approach of all those release > notes. > >> > > > > You generally say: Usage of multiple tabs is forbidden, while > the > >> > > actual > >> > > > > use case is much more specific. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Same for recordings, the documented use cases is fairly more > >> detailed > >> > > > then > >> > > > > the Release Notes indicate. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Do you have a proposal for those Release Notes that would > reflect > >> > more > >> > > > the > >> > > > > detailed level of discussion that we have done now? > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Thanks, > >> > > > > Sebastian > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > 2013/6/25 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> That was intended to be one sentence, (it is broken in the > text) > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > For those who don't trust, let's try a recording session > online > >> > and > >> > > > >> check. > >> > > > >> -- > >> > > > >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > >> > > > >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > >> > > > >> http://dataved.ru/ > >> > > > >> +7 916 562 8095 > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, > >> > > > http://openmeetings.apache.org/ > >> > > > >> [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, > >> > http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ > >> > > > >> [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, > >> > > http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Alexei Fedotov > >> > > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > >> > Artyom, > >> > > > >> > release notes are written for a user. Imagine you are one. > Notes > >> > > > >> > should help you and tell > >> > > > >> > you that despite openmeetings.apache.org web site which > >> mentions > >> > > > >> > recordings they do not work for > >> > > > >> > real conferences in 2.1.1. If you learn this by trial and > error, > >> > > > >> > it will take a lot of your time. > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > Release notes are not intended to blame that someone breaks > >> > > something. > >> > > > >> > This is useless anyway because one can imagine the case when > >> > > > >> > Openmeetings breaks by itself (and we > >> > > > >> > get one with Adobe auto-updater). > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > Sebastian, > >> > > > >> > The bug about recordings is not that good in description, > still > >> > the > >> > > > >> > problem exists. We do recordings several times per week, and > >> soon > >> > > > >> > locate the problem root cause more accurately. Vasily reports > >> that > >> > > > >> > generic recording session works for no longer than 20 minutes > >> > > (longer > >> > > > >> > recording sessions are rare exceptions). > >> > > > >> > a recording session online and check. I myself did several > in a > >> > row. > >> > > > >> > Taking into account the standard conference planning cycle > is 1 > >> > > hour, > >> > > > >> > I think 20 minutes is not sufficient. > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > For those who don't trust, let's try. The "try it" approach > >> > > magically > >> > > > >> > worked for multi-tabs and Irina, we > >> > > > >> > got a crash in few seconds. She seems much more convinced in > her > >> > > last > >> > > > >> > letter, though this is only a part of the problem. Also > >> > multi-tabbed > >> > > > >> > openmeetings somehow corrupts windows microphone settings. > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > As for memory consumption, locating a problem was more > >> difficult, > >> > > than > >> > > > >> > to believe into it now. IMHO Adobe developers have leaks in > >> codec > >> > > > >> > implementations (eg releasing memory for some video frames), > >> when > >> > we > >> > > > >> > do not free all resources explicitly (and cannot free > >> system-deep > >> > > > >> > resources). SIP integration has its own server resource leak, > >> this > >> > > one > >> > > > >> > is unrelated. > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > While I personally want having SIP among the features (and do > >> test > >> > > it > >> > > > >> > several times a day), I'm ok with dropping it. Let's just > >> reflect > >> > > this > >> > > > >> > drop in the last release notes. This is important because we > >> > > announced > >> > > > >> > SIP integration several times, and the last time was in > March. > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > I'm not +1 with shipping a release which misses reported > >> features > >> > > > >> > without a proper note, because this potentially makes > customers > >> > > > >> > unhappy. > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > -- > >> > > > >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > >> > > > >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > >> > > > >> > http://dataved.ru/ > >> > > > >> > +7 916 562 8095 > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, > >> > > > >> http://openmeetings.apache.org/ > >> > > > >> > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, > >> > > http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ > >> > > > >> > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, > >> > > > http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 3:08 PM, [email protected] > >> > > > >> > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > >> >> Hi there, > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> regarding OPENMEETINGS-669 > >> > > > >> >> This has nothing todo with Release 2.1.1. I don't think it > >> should > >> > > be > >> > > > a > >> > > > >> note > >> > > > >> >> in the release notes. The comment in the Jira ticket *I have > >> > > retested > >> > > > >> on OM > >> > > > >> >> 3.0. Recording works without errors.* > >> > > > >> >> => This error can potentially happen with any version of > >> > > > OpenMeetings. > >> > > > >> >> I can clarify the details of how and when this can happen, > >> > however > >> > > > the > >> > > > >> root > >> > > > >> >> cause of the issue is not any new introduced functionality > of > >> > > > >> OpenMeetings > >> > > > >> >> 2.1.1 and it has _nothing_ todo with the length of the > >> > recording. I > >> > > > >> would > >> > > > >> >> be very happy if there would be a concrete steps to > reproduce > >> the > >> > > > issue > >> > > > >> in > >> > > > >> >> the Bug report. > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> regarding > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=885188 > >> > > > >> >> Does this bug happen also _without_ using the SIP > integration? > >> > > > >> >> Also the Bug report clearly states that the inital report > has > >> > > nothing > >> > > > >> todo > >> > > > >> >> with the second crash report in the ticket. > >> > > > >> >> I doubt that downgrading Flash Player will change the memory > >> > > > >> consumption, > >> > > > >> >> however that is also just a theory. The same theory that the > >> bug > >> > > > report > >> > > > >> >> asumes by saying *downgrading Flash solves the issue*. I > don't > >> > > think > >> > > > >> that > >> > > > >> >> there is a general request for *downgrade to 11.5 version* > of > >> > Flash > >> > > > >> Player. > >> > > > >> >> The bug report actually does not even mention which version > >> > exactly > >> > > > was > >> > > > >> >> tested and identified as buggy. So which version of the > Flash > >> > > Player > >> > > > was > >> > > > >> >> this actually? And for instance which task exactly in the > Flash > >> > > > Player > >> > > > >> has > >> > > > >> >> the memory leak? It could be for instance also a problem > with > >> our > >> > > > >> >> Audio/Video Codec configuration in the conference room or > >> simply > >> > a > >> > > > >> problem > >> > > > >> >> with the cam/microphone driver on that particular device. > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> * Multi-tabbing (no other flash application should be > running > >> in > >> > > > >> different > >> > > > >> >> browsers or tabs)* > >> > > > >> >> => I don't see any problem in running two instances of > >> > OpenMeetings > >> > > > >> next to > >> > > > >> >> each other, I do that all the time for testing. > >> > > > >> >> I don't think this Release Note should be added. What Irina > >> > > mentions > >> > > > is > >> > > > >> a > >> > > > >> >> specific use-case, but even that, I do that all the time > >> without > >> > > > >> issues. So > >> > > > >> >> there might be a problem but creating now the general > >> restriction > >> > > to > >> > > > >> have > >> > > > >> >> only a single tab opened all the time and close everything > else > >> > > > seems a > >> > > > >> bit > >> > > > >> >> restricted. Maybe this phrase could be worded differently: > >> > > > >> >> *Running multiple Flash Applications or OpenMeetings > instances > >> in > >> > > > >> multiple > >> > > > >> >> Tabs on the same device can lead to unexpected behaviour* > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> regarding OPENMEETINGS-677, OPENMEETINGS-678 > >> > > > >> >> What is it that we mention this in the Release Notes? > >> Integration > >> > > of > >> > > > >> >> SIP-Video is not on our list of current features. It would > be a > >> > > nice > >> > > > >> >> feature, but why would you add it to the Release Notes if > there > >> > is > >> > > an > >> > > > >> issue > >> > > > >> >> with it? It was not even announced yet that it would exist > at > >> > all? > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> Thanks, > >> > > > >> >> Sebastian > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> 2013/6/24 Irina Arkhipets <[email protected]> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >>> Hi All, > >> > > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> Reharding the multi-tabbing: > >> > > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> Here is a link to the crash report I've received recently > >> when I > >> > > > tried > >> > > > >> to > >> > > > >> >>> sit in two different OpenMeetings rooms in the tabs of the > >> same > >> > > > >> Mozilla FF > >> > > > >> >>> browser: > >> > > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/c448bb3d-18ef-45f6-aa66-7d8492130624 > >> > > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> It looks like some known bug in the flash player: see the > list > >> > of > >> > > > the > >> > > > >> >>> candidates in the bug report. > >> > > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> It seems like I am able to sit in one OpenMeetings room > from > >> two > >> > > > tabs > >> > > > >> of > >> > > > >> >>> the same browser as well as play youtube videos at the same > >> > > moment. > >> > > > >> >>> For me, the problems appear when I am trying to enter two > >> > > different > >> > > > >> rooms > >> > > > >> >>> in the same browser at the moment. > >> > > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> Regards, > >> > > > >> >>> Irina. > >> > > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko < > >> > > > [email protected] > >> > > > >> >>> >wrote: > >> > > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > Video/audio SIP integration has never been a part of > >> > > Openmeetings > >> > > > >> (as I > >> > > > >> >>> > know); > >> > > > >> >>> > Recordings didn't work before release, it's not new in > >> 2.1.1; > >> > > > >> >>> > There are troubles with recent version of Adobe Flash in > >> 2.1, > >> > > it's > >> > > > >> not > >> > > > >> >>> new > >> > > > >> >>> > too > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > 2013/6/24 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > Artyom, > >> > > > >> >>> > > I have updated the release notes with your input, and > >> > > additional > >> > > > >> input > >> > > > >> >>> > > from Irina. > >> > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > --- > >> > > > >> >>> > > Video/audio SIP integration is no longer a part of > Apache > >> > > > release. > >> > > > >> >>> > > Check free red5sip product for this integration. > >> > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > We also introduced reliability testing for this > release > >> > > (great > >> > > > >> job, > >> > > > >> >>> > > Vasily Degtyarev!). For 1 hour long conferences the > >> > following > >> > > > does > >> > > > >> not > >> > > > >> >>> > > work with Openmeetings 2.1.1: > >> > > > >> >>> > > * Recordigs > >> > > > >> >>> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-669 > >> > > > >> >>> > > * Recent version with Adobe Flash (please downgrade to > >> 11.5 > >> > > > >> version) > >> > > > >> >>> > > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=885188 > >> > > > >> >>> > > * Multi-tabbing (no other flash application should be > >> > running > >> > > in > >> > > > >> >>> > > different browsers or tabs) > >> > > > >> >>> > > --- > >> > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > -- > >> > > > >> >>> > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > >> > > > >> >>> > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > >> > > > >> >>> > > http://dataved.ru/ > >> > > > >> >>> > > +7 916 562 8095 > >> > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, > >> > > > >> >>> > http://openmeetings.apache.org/ > >> > > > >> >>> > > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, > >> > > > >> http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ > >> > > > >> >>> > > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, > >> > > > >> >>> http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings > >> > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko < > >> > > > >> >>> [email protected]> > >> > > > >> >>> > > wrote: > >> > > > >> >>> > > > Alexei, we shouldn't worry about sip integeration in > our > >> > > > releases > >> > > > >> >>> until > >> > > > >> >>> > > > red5sip is not an Openmeetings part. For example, > let's > >> > > > imagine > >> > > > >> if > >> > > > >> >>> > Linux > >> > > > >> >>> > > > developers say: "We can't release new kernel because > >> > > > OpenOffice > >> > > > >> has > >> > > > >> >>> > > various > >> > > > >> >>> > > > document rendering bugs". And Adobe Flash is not good > >> > > example > >> > > > >> because > >> > > > >> >>> > > > Openmeetings uses flash, but red5sip uses > Openmeetings > >> to > >> > > > provide > >> > > > >> >>> voip > >> > > > >> >>> > > > integration; all sip audio/video troubles are not > cause > >> of > >> > > > >> >>> Openmeetings > >> > > > >> >>> > > > bugs. > >> > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > 2013/6/24 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> > >> > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> I'm constantly getting enlightened by many people > that > >> > > > red4sip > >> > > > >> is > >> > > > >> >>> not > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> a part of Openmeetings. I'm well aware of that fact. > >> :-) > >> > > > Adobe > >> > > > >> Flash > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> is not a part of Openmeetings as well, and cause us > the > >> > > > problems > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> anyway. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> If you program does not run on Linux, release notes > >> > should > >> > > > say, > >> > > > >> >>> "does > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> not run on Linux". IMHO, it's important to reference > >> > > > ecosystem > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> requirements in release notes. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> -- > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> http://dataved.ru/ > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> +7 916 562 8095 > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, > >> > > > >> >>> > > http://openmeetings.apache.org/ > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, > >> > > > >> >>> http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, > >> > > > >> >>> > http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Alexei Fedotov > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > The previous release was an important step for > us, we > >> > > > >> graduated. > >> > > > >> >>> > Right > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > now we should restore original "release" meaning > by > >> > > > >> establishing > >> > > > >> >>> the > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > quality. There are two steps in establishing the > >> > quality. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > 1. Define the quality. Vasily did a good job here. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > 2. Improving the quality. Here we can improve > more. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > I want release notes being correct and agreed with > >> > > > >> participants. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > Taking Artyom comment into account, I wrote the > >> > following > >> > > > >> attempt > >> > > > >> >>> of > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > release notes. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > The following no longer works with Openmeetings > 2.1.1 > >> > > (for > >> > > > 1 > >> > > > >> hour > >> > > > >> >>> > long > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > conferences) > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > * Recordigs > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > * Recent version with Adobe Flash (please > downgrade > >> to > >> > > 11.5 > >> > > > >> >>> version) > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > * Multi-tabbing (no other flash application > should be > >> > > > running > >> > > > >> in > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > different browsers or tabs) > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > * Video/audio SIP integration (because it requires > >> > > another > >> > > > >> program > >> > > > >> >>> > we > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > don't want to mention anymore) > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > Vasily, could you please help adding bug numbers > to > >> > each > >> > > > >> line of > >> > > > >> >>> > the > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> notes? > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > The last item intentionally has a weird > explanation, > >> > but > >> > > > >> that's > >> > > > >> >>> > what I > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > get from Artyom's letter. Artyom, could you please > >> > > correct > >> > > > the > >> > > > >> >>> last > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > item in a way you think correctly reflects the > state > >> of > >> > > SIP > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > integration? > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > I think we can ship release with reflected > problems, > >> > this > >> > > > may > >> > > > >> help > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > users not to seek things they won't get. With > these > >> > > release > >> > > > >> notes > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > (improved with bug references and corrections) the > >> > > release > >> > > > >> gets my > >> > > > >> >>> > +1. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > -- > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > http://dataved.ru/ > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > +7 916 562 8095 > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> http://openmeetings.apache.org/ > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, > >> > > > >> >>> > http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, > >> > > > >> >>> > > http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 2:17 AM, > >> [email protected] > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> I think Artyom is right. Red5Sip is not the > scope of > >> > the > >> > > > >> >>> > OpenMeetings > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> project. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> Me might discuss on how we can make it the > scope, if > >> > we > >> > > > are > >> > > > >> able > >> > > > >> >>> to > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> create > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> an Incubator project around Red5Sip. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> I think for the end user this discussion (scope > or > >> > not) > >> > > > is a > >> > > > >> >>> rather > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> esoteric discussion as they are simply interested > >> in a > >> > > > >> working > >> > > > >> >>> > > product. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> However for the release, Artyom & Alexei, you are > >> both > >> > > PMC > >> > > > >> >>> members, > >> > > > >> >>> > > have > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> you an opinion about the 2.1.1 release? > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> Thanks, > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> Sebastian > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> 2013/6/24 Artyom Horuzhenko <[email protected]> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Hello Alexei, > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> I've just changed sip integration instruction a > >> > little > >> > > by > >> > > > >> adding > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> denoise > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> and dsp_drop_silence attributes and removed > silent > >> > > > >> detection in > >> > > > >> >>> > > red5sip > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> because there were some problems with it. I > think > >> we > >> > > > >> shouldn't > >> > > > >> >>> > > include > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> any > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> information about red5sip improvement into > >> > Openmeetings > >> > > > >> release > >> > > > >> >>> > > notes > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> because red5sip is another application. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> 2013/6/23 Alexei Fedotov < > [email protected] > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Sebastian, I have tested audio SIP > integration by > >> > > using > >> > > > >> SIP > >> > > > >> >>> > bridge > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> for > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > my own conferences. As a result, Artyom found > out > >> > > that > >> > > > >> >>> disabling > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > jitter-buffer in the Asterisk configuration > >> > improves > >> > > > >> audio. > >> > > > >> >>> > > Artyom, > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > where one can find your findings on the Apache > >> web > >> > > > site? > >> > > > >> Does > >> > > > >> >>> it > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> worth > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > reflecting this in release notes? > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > -- > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > http://dataved.ru/ > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > +7 916 562 8095 > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/ > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 7:09 AM, > >> > > [email protected] > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > We have 3 +1 votes from PMCs. So in theory > it > >> is > >> > > > >> possible. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > However it would be good if there is some > more > >> > > > feedback > >> > > > >> in > >> > > > >> >>> the > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> community > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > about that release. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Anybody else has been testing this release? > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Sebastian > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > 2013/6/22 Maxim Solodovnik < > >> [email protected] > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> I believe we should release rc1. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> @Sebastian can you publish and announce the > >> > > release? > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> BTW I did paragliding from ~2300 meters in > >> > Turkey > >> > > > with > >> > > > >> >>> > > instructor > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> and > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > sky > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> acrobatics :) it was really amazing! :) > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> On Jun 22, 2013 3:36 AM, " > >> [email protected] > >> > " > >> > > < > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> [email protected] > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> wrote: > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > I could only find one minor issue: > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-681 > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > I think that is still good to go out as a > >> > > release. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > +1 > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > Sebastian > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > 2013/6/22 [email protected] < > >> > > > >> [email protected]> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > I am sorry for the delay. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > The vote is now actually outdated. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > Shall we restart the vote process for > >> 2.1.1 > >> > ? > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > Sebastian > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > 2013/6/10 [email protected] < > >> > > > >> [email protected] > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > Release vote happens on dev list, > never on > >> > > > private. > >> > > > >> >>> > Please > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> vote on > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > dev, > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > as > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> the link to the dev list will be what > we > >> > > > publish > >> > > > >> as a > >> > > > >> >>> > > result > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> of > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> the > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > vote. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> I am sorry but I can't test before > next > >> > week > >> > > > as I > >> > > > >> >>> don't > >> > > > >> >>> > > have > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> a > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> Internet > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> connection good enough while I travel > >> > abroad. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> Sebastian > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> 2013/6/8 Maxim Solodovnik < > >> > > > [email protected]> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Dear OpenMeetings Community, > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> I would like to start a vote about > >> > releasing > >> > > > >> Apache > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> OpenMeetings > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> 2.1.1 > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> RC1 > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Main changes are covered in the > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Readme: > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > >> > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openmeetings/tags/2.1.1RC1/README > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Full Changelog: > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> > >> > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openmeetings/tags/2.1.1RC1/CHANGELOG > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Release artifacts: > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > >> > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openmeetings/2.1.1/rc1/ > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Tag: > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openmeetings/tags/2.1.1RC1/ > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> PGP release keys (signed using > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> C467526E): > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openmeetings/2.1.1/rc1/KEYS > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Vote will be open for 72 hours. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> [ ] +1 approve > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> [ ] +0 no opinion > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why) > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> My vote is +1. > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> -- > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> WBR > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Maxim aka solomax > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> -- > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> Sebastian Wagner > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> http://www.webbase-design.de > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> [email protected] > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > -- > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > Sebastian Wagner > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > http://www.webbase-design.de > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > [email protected] > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > -- > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > Sebastian Wagner > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > http://www.webbase-design.de > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > [email protected] > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > -- > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Sebastian Wagner > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > http://www.webbase-design.de > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > [email protected] > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> -- > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> Sebastian Wagner > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> http://www.webbase-design.de > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> [email protected] > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> -- > >> > > > >> >> Sebastian Wagner > >> > > > >> >> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > >> > > > >> >> http://www.webbase-design.de > >> > > > >> >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > >> > > > >> >> [email protected] > >> > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > -- > >> > > > > Sebastian Wagner > >> > > > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > >> > > > > http://www.webbase-design.de > >> > > > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > >> > > > > [email protected] > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > -- > >> > > Sebastian Wagner > >> > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock > >> > > http://www.webbase-design.de > >> > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com > >> > > [email protected] > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > WBR > >> > Maxim aka solomax > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > WBR > > Maxim aka solomax > -- Sebastian Wagner https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock http://www.webbase-design.de http://www.wagner-sebastian.com [email protected]
