Does anybody has any objections/additions to this?
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <[email protected]>wrote: > Should it be in NOTES or README or both? > > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Alexei Fedotov > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Are there any objections to the following text? >> >> --- >> Video/audio SIP integration is no longer a part of Apache release. >> Check free red5sip product for this integration. >> >> We also introduced reliability testing for this release (great job, >> Vasily Degtyarev!) For 1 hour long conferences the following does not >> work with Openmeetings 2.1.1: >> * Recordigs >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-669 >> * Recent version with Adobe Flash (please downgrade to 11.5 version) >> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=885188 >> * Multi-tabbing (no other flash application should be running in >> different browsers or tabs) >> --- >> 26.06.2013 12:17 пользователь "Maxim Solodovnik" <[email protected]> >> написал: >> >> > @Alexei, I believe red5sip issues should not affect OM release cycle. >> > >> > I was planning to release 2.1.1RC1. >> > Please let me know if RC2 should be packed. (I see no need for this >> right >> > now) >> > >> > In case README and/or NOTICE need to be changed I would really >> appreciate >> > if anybody will send me the new text. >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 3:15 PM, [email protected] < >> > [email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > I know from the past that you have been not allowed to use the same >> > device >> > > in multiple Flash Applications at the same time. >> > > In the past it was for example even like that: >> > > If a microphone or camera device was taken, the Flash Plagin >> *magically* >> > > knew it and any further request to Microphone.get(); would return a >> list >> > of >> > > Microphone _except_ the one that is already in use. >> > > >> > > So what I can confirm is: There have been problems already in the past >> > > where you could not use the same Microphone in multiple Flash >> > Applications >> > > on the same device (no matter if you do that in multiple tabs or in IE >> > and >> > > Firefox). >> > > >> > > A general rule is: Only one application at a time should access the >> > > Microphone (or Camera). For instance: Skype and OpenMeetings should >> not >> > run >> > > parallel and both use the Microphone at the same time (an exception >> might >> > > be if you really have two microphone devices physically with two >> > separated >> > > drivers et cetera). >> > > >> > > But I always thought that would be more like a common knowledge, its >> > > actually true for any kind of Video-Conferencing or WebChat >> application, >> > > not even for browser or Flash related applications: Only one >> application >> > at >> > > the same time should use Microphone or Camera. >> > > >> > > Sebastian >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > 2013/6/25 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> >> > > >> > > > Sebastian, >> > > > >> > > > My best guess about multi-tabs root cause is un-synchronized access >> to >> > > > video/audio coding internals (decoding works well) and inside Flash >> > > > and device drivers. This makes crashes unpredictable. >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, >> > > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, >> > > > http://dataved.ru/ >> > > > +7 916 562 8095 >> > > > >> > > > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, >> > > http://openmeetings.apache.org/ >> > > > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, >> http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ >> > > > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, >> > http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 4:58 AM, [email protected] >> > > > <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > * Multi-tabbing (no other flash application should be running in >> > > > different >> > > > > browsers or tabs)* >> > > > > "This is a well-known problem with Flash on Linux" >> > > > > => Then the sentence might be more like: >> > > > > " Running multiple instance of OpenMeetings or Flash applications >> on >> > > > Linux >> > > > > can cause issues with the stability of the Flash Plugin" >> > > > > >> > > > > My problem is more the general approach of all those release >> notes. >> > > > > You generally say: Usage of multiple tabs is forbidden, while the >> > > actual >> > > > > use case is much more specific. >> > > > > >> > > > > Same for recordings, the documented use cases is fairly more >> detailed >> > > > then >> > > > > the Release Notes indicate. >> > > > > >> > > > > Do you have a proposal for those Release Notes that would reflect >> > more >> > > > the >> > > > > detailed level of discussion that we have done now? >> > > > > >> > > > > Thanks, >> > > > > Sebastian >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > 2013/6/25 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> >> > > > > >> > > > >> That was intended to be one sentence, (it is broken in the text) >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > For those who don't trust, let's try a recording session online >> > and >> > > > >> check. >> > > > >> -- >> > > > >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, >> > > > >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, >> > > > >> http://dataved.ru/ >> > > > >> +7 916 562 8095 >> > > > >> >> > > > >> [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, >> > > > http://openmeetings.apache.org/ >> > > > >> [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, >> > http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ >> > > > >> [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, >> > > http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Alexei Fedotov >> > > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > >> > Artyom, >> > > > >> > release notes are written for a user. Imagine you are one. >> Notes >> > > > >> > should help you and tell >> > > > >> > you that despite openmeetings.apache.org web site which >> mentions >> > > > >> > recordings they do not work for >> > > > >> > real conferences in 2.1.1. If you learn this by trial and >> error, >> > > > >> > it will take a lot of your time. >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > Release notes are not intended to blame that someone breaks >> > > something. >> > > > >> > This is useless anyway because one can imagine the case when >> > > > >> > Openmeetings breaks by itself (and we >> > > > >> > get one with Adobe auto-updater). >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > Sebastian, >> > > > >> > The bug about recordings is not that good in description, still >> > the >> > > > >> > problem exists. We do recordings several times per week, and >> soon >> > > > >> > locate the problem root cause more accurately. Vasily reports >> that >> > > > >> > generic recording session works for no longer than 20 minutes >> > > (longer >> > > > >> > recording sessions are rare exceptions). >> > > > >> > a recording session online and check. I myself did several in a >> > row. >> > > > >> > Taking into account the standard conference planning cycle is 1 >> > > hour, >> > > > >> > I think 20 minutes is not sufficient. >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > For those who don't trust, let's try. The "try it" approach >> > > magically >> > > > >> > worked for multi-tabs and Irina, we >> > > > >> > got a crash in few seconds. She seems much more convinced in >> her >> > > last >> > > > >> > letter, though this is only a part of the problem. Also >> > multi-tabbed >> > > > >> > openmeetings somehow corrupts windows microphone settings. >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > As for memory consumption, locating a problem was more >> difficult, >> > > than >> > > > >> > to believe into it now. IMHO Adobe developers have leaks in >> codec >> > > > >> > implementations (eg releasing memory for some video frames), >> when >> > we >> > > > >> > do not free all resources explicitly (and cannot free >> system-deep >> > > > >> > resources). SIP integration has its own server resource leak, >> this >> > > one >> > > > >> > is unrelated. >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > While I personally want having SIP among the features (and do >> test >> > > it >> > > > >> > several times a day), I'm ok with dropping it. Let's just >> reflect >> > > this >> > > > >> > drop in the last release notes. This is important because we >> > > announced >> > > > >> > SIP integration several times, and the last time was in March. >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > I'm not +1 with shipping a release which misses reported >> features >> > > > >> > without a proper note, because this potentially makes customers >> > > > >> > unhappy. >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > -- >> > > > >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, >> > > > >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, >> > > > >> > http://dataved.ru/ >> > > > >> > +7 916 562 8095 >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, >> > > > >> http://openmeetings.apache.org/ >> > > > >> > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, >> > > http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ >> > > > >> > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, >> > > > http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 3:08 PM, [email protected] >> > > > >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > >> >> Hi there, >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> regarding OPENMEETINGS-669 >> > > > >> >> This has nothing todo with Release 2.1.1. I don't think it >> should >> > > be >> > > > a >> > > > >> note >> > > > >> >> in the release notes. The comment in the Jira ticket *I have >> > > retested >> > > > >> on OM >> > > > >> >> 3.0. Recording works without errors.* >> > > > >> >> => This error can potentially happen with any version of >> > > > OpenMeetings. >> > > > >> >> I can clarify the details of how and when this can happen, >> > however >> > > > the >> > > > >> root >> > > > >> >> cause of the issue is not any new introduced functionality of >> > > > >> OpenMeetings >> > > > >> >> 2.1.1 and it has _nothing_ todo with the length of the >> > recording. I >> > > > >> would >> > > > >> >> be very happy if there would be a concrete steps to reproduce >> the >> > > > issue >> > > > >> in >> > > > >> >> the Bug report. >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> regarding https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=885188 >> > > > >> >> Does this bug happen also _without_ using the SIP integration? >> > > > >> >> Also the Bug report clearly states that the inital report has >> > > nothing >> > > > >> todo >> > > > >> >> with the second crash report in the ticket. >> > > > >> >> I doubt that downgrading Flash Player will change the memory >> > > > >> consumption, >> > > > >> >> however that is also just a theory. The same theory that the >> bug >> > > > report >> > > > >> >> asumes by saying *downgrading Flash solves the issue*. I don't >> > > think >> > > > >> that >> > > > >> >> there is a general request for *downgrade to 11.5 version* of >> > Flash >> > > > >> Player. >> > > > >> >> The bug report actually does not even mention which version >> > exactly >> > > > was >> > > > >> >> tested and identified as buggy. So which version of the Flash >> > > Player >> > > > was >> > > > >> >> this actually? And for instance which task exactly in the >> Flash >> > > > Player >> > > > >> has >> > > > >> >> the memory leak? It could be for instance also a problem with >> our >> > > > >> >> Audio/Video Codec configuration in the conference room or >> simply >> > a >> > > > >> problem >> > > > >> >> with the cam/microphone driver on that particular device. >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> * Multi-tabbing (no other flash application should be running >> in >> > > > >> different >> > > > >> >> browsers or tabs)* >> > > > >> >> => I don't see any problem in running two instances of >> > OpenMeetings >> > > > >> next to >> > > > >> >> each other, I do that all the time for testing. >> > > > >> >> I don't think this Release Note should be added. What Irina >> > > mentions >> > > > is >> > > > >> a >> > > > >> >> specific use-case, but even that, I do that all the time >> without >> > > > >> issues. So >> > > > >> >> there might be a problem but creating now the general >> restriction >> > > to >> > > > >> have >> > > > >> >> only a single tab opened all the time and close everything >> else >> > > > seems a >> > > > >> bit >> > > > >> >> restricted. Maybe this phrase could be worded differently: >> > > > >> >> *Running multiple Flash Applications or OpenMeetings >> instances in >> > > > >> multiple >> > > > >> >> Tabs on the same device can lead to unexpected behaviour* >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> regarding OPENMEETINGS-677, OPENMEETINGS-678 >> > > > >> >> What is it that we mention this in the Release Notes? >> Integration >> > > of >> > > > >> >> SIP-Video is not on our list of current features. It would be >> a >> > > nice >> > > > >> >> feature, but why would you add it to the Release Notes if >> there >> > is >> > > an >> > > > >> issue >> > > > >> >> with it? It was not even announced yet that it would exist at >> > all? >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> Thanks, >> > > > >> >> Sebastian >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> 2013/6/24 Irina Arkhipets <[email protected]> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >>> Hi All, >> > > > >> >>> >> > > > >> >>> Reharding the multi-tabbing: >> > > > >> >>> >> > > > >> >>> Here is a link to the crash report I've received recently >> when I >> > > > tried >> > > > >> to >> > > > >> >>> sit in two different OpenMeetings rooms in the tabs of the >> same >> > > > >> Mozilla FF >> > > > >> >>> browser: >> > > > >> >>> >> > > > >> >>> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > > >> > >> https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/c448bb3d-18ef-45f6-aa66-7d8492130624 >> > > > >> >>> >> > > > >> >>> It looks like some known bug in the flash player: see the >> list >> > of >> > > > the >> > > > >> >>> candidates in the bug report. >> > > > >> >>> >> > > > >> >>> It seems like I am able to sit in one OpenMeetings room from >> two >> > > > tabs >> > > > >> of >> > > > >> >>> the same browser as well as play youtube videos at the same >> > > moment. >> > > > >> >>> For me, the problems appear when I am trying to enter two >> > > different >> > > > >> rooms >> > > > >> >>> in the same browser at the moment. >> > > > >> >>> >> > > > >> >>> Regards, >> > > > >> >>> Irina. >> > > > >> >>> >> > > > >> >>> >> > > > >> >>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko < >> > > > [email protected] >> > > > >> >>> >wrote: >> > > > >> >>> >> > > > >> >>> > Video/audio SIP integration has never been a part of >> > > Openmeetings >> > > > >> (as I >> > > > >> >>> > know); >> > > > >> >>> > Recordings didn't work before release, it's not new in >> 2.1.1; >> > > > >> >>> > There are troubles with recent version of Adobe Flash in >> 2.1, >> > > it's >> > > > >> not >> > > > >> >>> new >> > > > >> >>> > too >> > > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > 2013/6/24 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> >> > > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > Artyom, >> > > > >> >>> > > I have updated the release notes with your input, and >> > > additional >> > > > >> input >> > > > >> >>> > > from Irina. >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > --- >> > > > >> >>> > > Video/audio SIP integration is no longer a part of Apache >> > > > release. >> > > > >> >>> > > Check free red5sip product for this integration. >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > We also introduced reliability testing for this release >> > > (great >> > > > >> job, >> > > > >> >>> > > Vasily Degtyarev!). For 1 hour long conferences the >> > following >> > > > does >> > > > >> not >> > > > >> >>> > > work with Openmeetings 2.1.1: >> > > > >> >>> > > * Recordigs >> > > > >> >>> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-669 >> > > > >> >>> > > * Recent version with Adobe Flash (please downgrade to >> 11.5 >> > > > >> version) >> > > > >> >>> > > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=885188 >> > > > >> >>> > > * Multi-tabbing (no other flash application should be >> > running >> > > in >> > > > >> >>> > > different browsers or tabs) >> > > > >> >>> > > --- >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > -- >> > > > >> >>> > > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, >> > > > >> >>> > > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, >> > > > >> >>> > > http://dataved.ru/ >> > > > >> >>> > > +7 916 562 8095 >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, >> > > > >> >>> > http://openmeetings.apache.org/ >> > > > >> >>> > > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, >> > > > >> http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ >> > > > >> >>> > > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, >> > > > >> >>> http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Artyom Horuzhenko < >> > > > >> >>> [email protected]> >> > > > >> >>> > > wrote: >> > > > >> >>> > > > Alexei, we shouldn't worry about sip integeration in >> our >> > > > releases >> > > > >> >>> until >> > > > >> >>> > > > red5sip is not an Openmeetings part. For example, let's >> > > > imagine >> > > > >> if >> > > > >> >>> > Linux >> > > > >> >>> > > > developers say: "We can't release new kernel because >> > > > OpenOffice >> > > > >> has >> > > > >> >>> > > various >> > > > >> >>> > > > document rendering bugs". And Adobe Flash is not good >> > > example >> > > > >> because >> > > > >> >>> > > > Openmeetings uses flash, but red5sip uses Openmeetings >> to >> > > > provide >> > > > >> >>> voip >> > > > >> >>> > > > integration; all sip audio/video troubles are not >> cause of >> > > > >> >>> Openmeetings >> > > > >> >>> > > > bugs. >> > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > > 2013/6/24 Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> >> > > > >> >>> > > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> I'm constantly getting enlightened by many people that >> > > > red4sip >> > > > >> is >> > > > >> >>> not >> > > > >> >>> > > >> a part of Openmeetings. I'm well aware of that fact. >> :-) >> > > > Adobe >> > > > >> Flash >> > > > >> >>> > > >> is not a part of Openmeetings as well, and cause us >> the >> > > > problems >> > > > >> >>> > > >> anyway. >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> If you program does not run on Linux, release notes >> > should >> > > > say, >> > > > >> >>> "does >> > > > >> >>> > > >> not run on Linux". IMHO, it's important to reference >> > > > ecosystem >> > > > >> >>> > > >> requirements in release notes. >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> -- >> > > > >> >>> > > >> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, >> > > > >> >>> > > >> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, >> > > > >> >>> > > >> http://dataved.ru/ >> > > > >> >>> > > >> +7 916 562 8095 >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, >> > > > >> >>> > > http://openmeetings.apache.org/ >> > > > >> >>> > > >> [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, >> > > > >> >>> http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ >> > > > >> >>> > > >> [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, >> > > > >> >>> > http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Alexei Fedotov >> > > > >> >>> > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > The previous release was an important step for us, >> we >> > > > >> graduated. >> > > > >> >>> > Right >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > now we should restore original "release" meaning by >> > > > >> establishing >> > > > >> >>> the >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > quality. There are two steps in establishing the >> > quality. >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > 1. Define the quality. Vasily did a good job here. >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > 2. Improving the quality. Here we can improve more. >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > I want release notes being correct and agreed with >> > > > >> participants. >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > Taking Artyom comment into account, I wrote the >> > following >> > > > >> attempt >> > > > >> >>> of >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > release notes. >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > The following no longer works with Openmeetings >> 2.1.1 >> > > (for >> > > > 1 >> > > > >> hour >> > > > >> >>> > long >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > conferences) >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > * Recordigs >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > * Recent version with Adobe Flash (please downgrade >> to >> > > 11.5 >> > > > >> >>> version) >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > * Multi-tabbing (no other flash application should >> be >> > > > running >> > > > >> in >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > different browsers or tabs) >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > * Video/audio SIP integration (because it requires >> > > another >> > > > >> program >> > > > >> >>> > we >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > don't want to mention anymore) >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > Vasily, could you please help adding bug numbers to >> > each >> > > > >> line of >> > > > >> >>> > the >> > > > >> >>> > > >> notes? >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > The last item intentionally has a weird explanation, >> > but >> > > > >> that's >> > > > >> >>> > what I >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > get from Artyom's letter. Artyom, could you please >> > > correct >> > > > the >> > > > >> >>> last >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > item in a way you think correctly reflects the >> state of >> > > SIP >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > integration? >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > I think we can ship release with reflected problems, >> > this >> > > > may >> > > > >> help >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > users not to seek things they won't get. With these >> > > release >> > > > >> notes >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > (improved with bug references and corrections) the >> > > release >> > > > >> gets my >> > > > >> >>> > +1. >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > -- >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > http://dataved.ru/ >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > +7 916 562 8095 >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, >> > > > >> >>> > > >> http://openmeetings.apache.org/ >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, >> > > > >> >>> > http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, >> > > > >> >>> > > http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 2:17 AM, >> [email protected] >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> I think Artyom is right. Red5Sip is not the scope >> of >> > the >> > > > >> >>> > OpenMeetings >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> project. >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> Me might discuss on how we can make it the scope, >> if >> > we >> > > > are >> > > > >> able >> > > > >> >>> to >> > > > >> >>> > > >> create >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> an Incubator project around Red5Sip. >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> I think for the end user this discussion (scope or >> > not) >> > > > is a >> > > > >> >>> rather >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> esoteric discussion as they are simply interested >> in a >> > > > >> working >> > > > >> >>> > > product. >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> However for the release, Artyom & Alexei, you are >> both >> > > PMC >> > > > >> >>> members, >> > > > >> >>> > > have >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> you an opinion about the 2.1.1 release? >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> Thanks, >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> Sebastian >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> 2013/6/24 Artyom Horuzhenko <[email protected]> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Hello Alexei, >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> I've just changed sip integration instruction a >> > little >> > > by >> > > > >> adding >> > > > >> >>> > > >> denoise >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> and dsp_drop_silence attributes and removed silent >> > > > >> detection in >> > > > >> >>> > > red5sip >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> because there were some problems with it. I think >> we >> > > > >> shouldn't >> > > > >> >>> > > include >> > > > >> >>> > > >> any >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> information about red5sip improvement into >> > Openmeetings >> > > > >> release >> > > > >> >>> > > notes >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> because red5sip is another application. >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> 2013/6/23 Alexei Fedotov < >> [email protected]> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Sebastian, I have tested audio SIP integration >> by >> > > using >> > > > >> SIP >> > > > >> >>> > bridge >> > > > >> >>> > > >> for >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > my own conferences. As a result, Artyom found >> out >> > > that >> > > > >> >>> disabling >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > jitter-buffer in the Asterisk configuration >> > improves >> > > > >> audio. >> > > > >> >>> > > Artyom, >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > where one can find your findings on the Apache >> web >> > > > site? >> > > > >> Does >> > > > >> >>> it >> > > > >> >>> > > >> worth >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > reflecting this in release notes? >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > -- >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > http://dataved.ru/ >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > +7 916 562 8095 >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > [1] Start using Apache Openmeetings today, >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/ >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > [2] Join Alexei Fedotov @linkedin, >> > > > >> >>> > > >> http://ru.linkedin.com/in/dataved/ >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > [3] Join Alexei Fedotov @facebook, >> > > > >> >>> > > >> http://www.facebook.com/openmeetings >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 7:09 AM, >> > > [email protected] >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > We have 3 +1 votes from PMCs. So in theory it >> is >> > > > >> possible. >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > However it would be good if there is some more >> > > > feedback >> > > > >> in >> > > > >> >>> the >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> community >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > about that release. >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Anybody else has been testing this release? >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Sebastian >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > 2013/6/22 Maxim Solodovnik < >> [email protected] >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> I believe we should release rc1. >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> @Sebastian can you publish and announce the >> > > release? >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> BTW I did paragliding from ~2300 meters in >> > Turkey >> > > > with >> > > > >> >>> > > instructor >> > > > >> >>> > > >> and >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > sky >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> acrobatics :) it was really amazing! :) >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> On Jun 22, 2013 3:36 AM, " >> [email protected] >> > " >> > > < >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> [email protected] >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> wrote: >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > I could only find one minor issue: >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-681 >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > I think that is still good to go out as a >> > > release. >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > +1 >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > Sebastian >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > 2013/6/22 [email protected] < >> > > > >> [email protected]> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > I am sorry for the delay. >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > The vote is now actually outdated. >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > Shall we restart the vote process for >> 2.1.1 >> > ? >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > Sebastian >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > 2013/6/10 [email protected] < >> > > > >> [email protected] >> > > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > Release vote happens on dev list, never >> on >> > > > private. >> > > > >> >>> > Please >> > > > >> >>> > > >> vote on >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > dev, >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > as >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> the link to the dev list will be what we >> > > > publish >> > > > >> as a >> > > > >> >>> > > result >> > > > >> >>> > > >> of >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> the >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > vote. >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> I am sorry but I can't test before next >> > week >> > > > as I >> > > > >> >>> don't >> > > > >> >>> > > have >> > > > >> >>> > > >> a >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> Internet >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> connection good enough while I travel >> > abroad. >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> Thanks, >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> Sebastian >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> 2013/6/8 Maxim Solodovnik < >> > > > [email protected]> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Dear OpenMeetings Community, >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> I would like to start a vote about >> > releasing >> > > > >> Apache >> > > > >> >>> > > >> OpenMeetings >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> 2.1.1 >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> RC1 >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Main changes are covered in the >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Readme: >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> >> > > > >> >>> >> > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openmeetings/tags/2.1.1RC1/README >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Full Changelog: >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >> > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openmeetings/tags/2.1.1RC1/CHANGELOG >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Release artifacts: >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openmeetings/2.1.1/rc1/ >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Tag: >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> >> > > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openmeetings/tags/2.1.1RC1/ >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> PGP release keys (signed using >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> C467526E): >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openmeetings/2.1.1/rc1/KEYS >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Vote will be open for 72 hours. >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> [ ] +1 approve >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> [ ] +0 no opinion >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why) >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> My vote is +1. >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> -- >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> WBR >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> Maxim aka solomax >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >>> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> -- >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> Sebastian Wagner >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> http://www.webbase-design.de >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> [email protected] >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > -- >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > Sebastian Wagner >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > http://www.webbase-design.de >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > [email protected] >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > -- >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > Sebastian Wagner >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > http://www.webbase-design.de >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > [email protected] >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > -- >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Sebastian Wagner >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > http://www.webbase-design.de >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > [email protected] >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >>> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> -- >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> Sebastian Wagner >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> http://www.webbase-design.de >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> [email protected] >> > > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > >> > > > >> >>> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> -- >> > > > >> >> Sebastian Wagner >> > > > >> >> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock >> > > > >> >> http://www.webbase-design.de >> > > > >> >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com >> > > > >> >> [email protected] >> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > -- >> > > > > Sebastian Wagner >> > > > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock >> > > > > http://www.webbase-design.de >> > > > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com >> > > > > [email protected] >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Sebastian Wagner >> > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock >> > > http://www.webbase-design.de >> > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com >> > > [email protected] >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > WBR >> > Maxim aka solomax >> > >> > > > > -- > WBR > Maxim aka solomax > -- WBR Maxim aka solomax
