On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 2:35 PM, jan iversen <jancasacon...@gmail.com> wrote: > I agree with your thoughts. > > Except there is a lot of ocean between those events, I intent to visit > FOSDEM but being located where I am NA is not a possibility. > > I might be wrong, but it seems comparing apples with oranges (a danish > expression) when you compare FOSDEM and apacheCON. I thought FOSDEM was > open source in general and apacheCON was solely apache projects ?? >
I'm probably the only one who thinks of this in terms of a linear programming problem.... But each event has certain things that it is especially good for, some stuff which it does passably well, and some stuff that it is not really good add. The survey questions I posted aim to gauge what ApacheCon was good for and what it wasn't. You can think of this as a weighted vector, e.g.: | Recruit developers | | 0.3 | | Learn about Apache | === | 0.7 | | Advance AOO 4.0 plans | | 0.4 | You could do this for other events as well. Each has strengths and weaknesses. Then you can think of what our priorities are, which you can also express as vector. Then you can look at costs, individual and project wise, for attendance at each event. And then you can ask how to maximize achievement of goals within given expense targets. Now I'm not saying we should actually do this calculation. But I think it is useful to consider the model and ask these questions: what are our priorities and what combination of events best helps us achieve them? Of course this is a very corporate way of looking at things and I apologize to anyone who is independently wealthy and has the resources to attend every event. -Rob > Jan. > > On 10 November 2012 20:19, Rob Weir <rabas...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Nov 10, 2012, at 11:31 AM, jan iversen <jancasacon...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Once you get all the answers, will you then publish it (in a "statistic" >> > form) ? >> >> >> Let's see how many responses we get. I see it as prompting a >> discussion on priorities and what we get out of various kinds of >> events. If numbers help then well have numbers. But this much is >> certain: many of us will soon will have choices to make, since Fosdem >> and Apache NA are at nearly the same time. I think feedback from >> those in the project who attended ACE would be valuable. >> >> -Rob >> >> >> > >> > I looked deeply into my pocket for apacheCon, but found it very >> expensive, >> > so I would really like to hear if it was worthwhile. >> > >> > We have FOSDEM upcomming in europe, and many like me, may be questioning, >> > is that how I should spend my money ? >> > >> > I think it is very important, that we get the community "floating" and >> gain >> > momentum, but has anyone thought about making events that did not cost >> > 600,- EUR + travel/hotel etc. ?? >> > >> > This is just a thought, please do not take it offensive that I as a >> > newcomer suggest something different , but maybe it is time, we made a >> > OpenOffice (I do not write AOO on purpose) gathering, where developers >> can >> > talk to developers without the overhead of a big conference company !! >> > >> > I used to do participate in such events, which were highly successful, >> so I >> > can only recommend it (and would be pleased to help establish such a >> > non-commercial event). >> > >> > Jan. >> > >> > >> > On 10 November 2012 16:58, Rob Weir <rabas...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> Ross, this isn't a "what if" survey based on what attendees might have >> >> done, but didn't. I'm interesting in their actual experiences. But >> >> feel free to add a relevant additional question if you feel one is >> >> missing. >> >> >> >> -Rob >> >> >> >> On Nov 10, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> You missed how useful was it in learning about the ASF >> >>> >> >>> The problem is that the answers depend on how one approached the event. >> >> If >> >>> an individual only attended the AOO track then one would not benefit >> from >> >>> the community track or other project specific tracks for example. >> >>> >> >>> Ross >> >>> >> >>> Sent from mobile, forgive terseness and errors >> >>> On Nov 9, 2012 8:13 PM, "Rob Weir" <robw...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> A few questions for those who attended in Sinsheim from the AOO >> >>>> project. I'm hoping these answers will help us decide how to allocate >> >>>> resources to future events. >> >>>> >> >>>> On a scale of 1-5, where 1 is lowest and 5 is highest, how effective >> >>>> was attending ApacheCon EU to you for each of the following: >> >>>> >> >>>> A. Meeting other AOO project members >> >>>> >> >>>> B. Gaining new information about AOO from the formal presentations. >> >>>> >> >>>> C. Gaining new information about AOO from informal discussions with >> >>>> project members. >> >>>> >> >>>> D. Gaining new AOO users >> >>>> >> >>>> E. Recruiting new potential project members >> >>>> >> >>>> F. Educating others about AOO >> >>>> >> >>>> G. Learning more about other Apache projects >> >>>> >> >>>> H. Moving AOO project plans and/or technical decisions forward. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Thanks! >> >>>> >> >>>> -Rob >> >> >>
