On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: > >> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Armin Le Grand <armin.le.gr...@me.com> > wrote: > >>> Hi Rob, > >>> > >>> > >>> On 27.09.2013 14:50, Rob Weir wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 6:04 AM, Alexandro Colorado <j...@oooes.org> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> My guess is that the TM are not converted to path. Font diven logos > could > >>>>> be unstable across different renders engine. > >>>>> -- > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> And we still get many visitors using older browsers, even I.E. 6. So > >>>> I'd recommend using a rasterized version of the logo on the website or > >>>> anywhere else we expect random users to visit. There are ways of > >>>> having both SVG and raster images, but if we're not seeing consistent > >>>> SVG rendering then it would be safer to just render via Inkscape and > >>>> use that. > >>> > >>> > >>> There is a way to have a uncritical SVG version - just convert all > text to > >>> polygons first (and use absolute polygon paths, e.g. in inkscape). That > >>> version would be safe since it would not use any font references, only > >>> graphics (polygons). Relying on font rendering in SVG does simply not > work > >>> for multiple different systems, versions of these and even evtl. > different > >>> languages and installed fonts. > >>> > >> > >> That might fix this one issue, but what about older browsers like I.E. > >> 6? Will the logo render perfectly everywhere? We have challenges > >> getting even HTML and Javascript to work right everywhere. I don't > >> think we want to risk having our brand image rendering poorly. We've > >> gone 12 years with a raster logo on the website. It works. > >> > > > > And I should mention that we get 200K+ visits/month from mobile phones > > and tablets as well. > > > > And finally, converting to polygons in advance prevents the TrueType > engines from doing its best job at rendering the font hinting at > various scales. Compare it yourself. Take 12-point text, convert to > polygons and then scale up (or down) the polygons. Then try again > with an actual font reference. It might vary by font, but a > well-designed font will render much better if you do not convert to > polygons first. > Umm.. I havent heard this before but AFAIK most fonts are developed on SVG now. Fontforge uses as a core filetype to quote an example. > > -Rob > > > > >> -Rob > >> > >> > >>> Sincerely, > >>> Armin > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> -Rob > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Sent from my Nokia N900 > >>>>> > >>>>> On Fri Sep 27 04:11:33 2013 David Gerard <dger...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 27 September 2013 09:23, Jörg Schmidt <joe...@j-m-schmidt.de> > wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> But a note: > >>>>>>> The "M" in "TM" is shown cut off and the representation of "TM" is > >>>>>>> different in Internet Explorer and Firefox, once serifs, once > without > >>>>>>> serifs, at an official logo should not be. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Display artifact in Firefox. It's fine in Inkscape or on Wikimedia > >>>>>> Commons: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Aoo4-main-tm-logo-rgb.svg > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> - d. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >>>>>> > >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >>> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
