I've heard that it is a whole lot and much more that the PMC policies warrant.

I dug into this to find out exactly what "a whole lot" is and whether it is a 
way to demonstrate, without breaching confidentiality, when activity more 
aligned with the policy is reached over time.

Thanks for your question and welcome back, Phil.

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Phillip Rhodes [mailto:motley.crue....@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 14:59
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: [REPORT] PMC 2015-07 Private-List Activity through July

So what, if anything, should we take away from this?  My (completely
superficial, naive and uninformed) feeling is that that is a LOT of traffic
on the "private" list.  But maybe not.  Anyway, is the idea here that there
should be less traffic on that list? More? The same?

I have to admit, I've been pretty dormant for a long-time, so I'm a little
out of touch with what's going on (gone on) here, but you have me intrigued
with this.


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On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton <orc...@apache.org>

> From an AOO PMC Member,
> I have compiled a high-level traffic analysis of discussion activity on
> the OpenOffice PMC private@ oo.a.o list.  These are *statistics* and
> noisy ones at that.  I am looking for trends that are good-enough at this
> level of precision.  It is in the nature of private@ that message content
> and even the topics must be held in confidence.
> This report of gross metrics is for the community's appraisal of current
> state and later progress.  The movement of discussions to the community
> when the confidentiality requirements for PMC discussion do not apply
> should be seen in movements at this level.  Further reports over the course
> of the year may provide an useful indicator.
> This is a breakdown of the traffic in the 212 days from January through
> July, 2015, by role of the sender.
>         2015 | Private List Messages
>    thru July | PMC  ASF  Other   All
>       Totals  1145  182     31  1358
>      Senders    22   23     23    68
>   Per sender  52.0  7.9    1.3  20.0
>    (average)
>      Per day   5.4  0.9    0.1   6.4
> Of all the messages sent,
>   84% are by members of the PMC,
>   16% are by other ASF participants, and
>   17% are by others.
> The ASF participants include members of Apache Infrastructure, Officers of
> the ASF, and other ASF Members and staff who make posts to the private
> list.  The "Other" senders are members of the public and non-PMC Apache
> OpenOffice contributors that raise questions or provide information to the
> PMC via private@.
> For the 1145 messages from the 22 PMC members who posted to the list so
> far this year,
>   49% of the messages are from the three
>       PMC members who were the most vocal
>       in the studied period.
>   75% of the messages are from the seven
>       most vocal.
>   91% were from the most vocal 11 of the
>       22 PMC members that posted.
> I confess to being one of those top three posters.
> A review of the same message archives, for January - July, 2015, tallied
>      168 subjects discussed across 1341 posts,
>          about 0.8 new topics per day.
>            The variance of 17 from the first tally
>          is negligible and will not be corrected.
>          The raw data is available for auditing
>          by the PMC.
>      8.0 is the average number of messages on a
>          single subject
>       5% is the portion of the overall messages
>          used in the longest thread, one with
>          73 messages
>      50% of the messages are on the 20 longest
>          discussion threads.  The shortest thread
>          in that group has 18 messages.
>      75% of the messages are on the 50 longest
>          discussions.  The shortest threads in
>          that group have 8 messages.
>      90% of the messages are on the 84 longest
>          discussions (i.e., half of the
>          threads).  The shortest threads in
>          that group have 4 messages each.
>      The remaining 10% consists of 84 threads
>      having 3, 2, and 1 messages each.
> This does not speak to the quality or the necessity of these messages and
> any particular thread.  The PMC has detailed supporting data.
>         [end of report]
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