Hello Marcus,

I did all changes now... It could take some time to be visible.

If you go to:

https://plus.google.com/+openoffice

there is a a link to our homepage underneath the logo. Behind the link
there is a check mark. If you point the mouse on it it says "Verknüpfte
Website". This is only to ensure that this website really belongs to the
profile.

But wait! It can be, that you see the "new" design from Google+. So it
may be not visible for you.
In my eyes the new design is quite ugly and not ready for release. But
Google thinks it should be default... :-O

Hard to explain, here is a picture (classical Google+):
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48386075/Google%2Bverification.png

regards, Matthias


Am 02.12.2016 um 23:52 schrieb Marcus:
> Am 12/02/2016 08:33 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> Am 02.12.2016 um 19:59 schrieb Marcus:
>>> Am 12/02/2016 06:44 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>> Am 02.12.2016 um 17:42 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>> Am 12/02/2016 01:11 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>> Last night I did some changes to our homepage... ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks for your update. I've some questions:
>>>>>
>>>>>>     - Renewed the google-site-verification. Now we have a confirmed
>>>>>> link to
>>>>>> https://www.openoffice.org on Google+
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the reason to exchange the old one? Got it invalid?
>>>>
>>>> No, the old one was for http, now the link is for https. Google
>>>> needed a
>>>> new verification code for that.
>>>> Originally this was done by Rob Weir (?), so I just changed the string
>>>> in index.html.
>>>
>>> OK, but what is now with HTTP? Isn't it then needed to have 2 codes?
>>> Or does the code for HTTPS include HTTP automatically?
>>
>> Yes. It is just to verify the quality of the link (See the checkmark
>> behind the link on Google+)
>
> sorry, I'm not familar with G+. Wich checkmark do you mean?
>
>>>>>>     - Added favicon.png (Which now seems unnecessary, but doesn't
>>>>>> hurt
>>>>>> either)
>>>>>
>>>>> There is already one. Please see ".../branding/images/favicon.ico".
>>>>> So, please don't put other files into the root directory except dirs
>>>>> and HTML files. It's already enough filled with things that do not
>>>>> belong there. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Nice to have a favicon in a subfolder, when it is not referenced in
>>>> html. It will never be used! ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Browsers look by default in the root for favicon.ico. There was
>>>> already
>>>> one since 2014. It was 100k, the new one is 99k.
>>>> But we can surely move the favicon.ico and change the link
>>>> accordingly.
>>>
>>> Yes, please.
>>
>> OK, I will move it to /branding/images. What to do with the old unused
>> icon? Can I rename it?
>
> "favicon_16x16.ico" looks like a good name for the backup.
>
>> And I will delete favicon.png. Hopefully everything will work without
>> it...
>
> No risk, no fun ... ;-)
>
>>>>>>     - Added a link to favicon.ico and favicon.png to get a thumbnail
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> the link to our homepage on YouTube
>>>>>>     - Increased the size of the orb in favicon.ico, so it looks much
>>>>>> clearer now.
>>>>>
>>>>>    From 1kB to 100kB is IMHO not really an improvement. Compared with
>>>>> some Youtube visitors, this will increase the loading time of every
>>>>> webpage request.
>>>>
>>>> As I said before, that 1k favicon.ico wasn't used. Who ever put it
>>>> there...
>>>>
>>>> But I think we can delete favicon.png. That was just a fallback.
>>>> Eventually Google only needed some time to crawl the webpage.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Where can I see the icon in the Youtube channel [1]? When checking
>>>>> the
>>>>> graphic links nothing refers back to get them from our webpage.
>>>>
>>>> There are four links at the right side of the channel graphic.
>>>> Homepage
>>>> is the first and had a generic icon until recently.
>>>>
>>>> The icons are automatically pulled, when YouTube (Google) checks the
>>>> link. That did work for Facebook, Twitter and Google+, but not for our
>>>> homepage.
>>>
>>> So, that means Youtube goes to "www.openoffice.org", looks in
>>> "index.html" for an favicon entry and if existing take it from the
>>> given path?
>>
>> Right. Google pulls only the proper resolution.
>>
>>>
>>>> If you can't see the AOO orb in front of the link now, you may have to
>>>> empty your browser cache and reload the page.
>>>
>>> Sure, I can see it. But I don't see an increase of quality. It's the
>>> same size as on our homepage. So, why is there a new and bigger
>>> favicon needed?
>>
>> Until recently, you couldn't even see the icon...
>>
>> It contains graphics for different resolutions like before. Therefore it
>> is bigger, but more versatile than a small 16x16 icon.
>> We live in the times of HiDPI- and Retina-Displays!
>> And the one I adapted has been there since 2014 (file date). The size of
>> the new file is even slightly smaller now.
>>
>> Let me clarify, the dimensions are the same, only it uses the available
>> space better and looks "bigger".
>>
>> I think you can see the difference here:
>>
>> old: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48386075/favicon_old.png
>> new: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48386075/favicon.png
>
> It's indeed looking bigger - or better said it's filling the complete
> available space.
>
> Again, thanks for the updates.
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>>>>>> BTW, in the near future Google (Chrome) plans to mark all websites
>>>>>> without https as "unsafe".
>>>>>> We already have a certificate for our homepage, do we want to make
>>>>>> https
>>>>>> as default?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Some pages have problems
>>>>>> (https://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html) so that must be
>>>>>> investigated in advance)
>>>>>
>>>>> Hm, I don't see a problem here.
>>>>
>>>> I can see the text, but not the graphics, because they are loaded from
>>>> an "unsafe place" (Firefox, Chrome and IE block this by default)
>>>> This is only a problem, if we set https as default. Now the page is
>>>> loaded with http. You need to use the above link to see it.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for taking care.
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5VAaY4mqQVhNe8j7fZCEfw
>>>>>
>>>>> Marcus
>>>>
>>>> That is just eye candy for our visitors... ;-)
>>>>
>>>> regards, Matthias
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 01.12.2016 um 19:41 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>>>> Am 12/01/2016 12:21 AM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>>>> I did it already,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Upload via CMS is OK, download works via SVN.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> great, thanks. :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 01.12.2016 um 00:02 schrieb Marcus:
>>>>>>>>> Am 11/30/2016 11:42 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>>>>>>>>> Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I think the CMS treats it as a text/html file.
>>>>>>>>>>> GIMP can not open it when downloaded.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The XCF Marcus uploaded to SVN is usable.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Download it from here:
>>>>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (use right-click on the file name to be sure the browser doesn't
>>>>>>>>>> mess
>>>>>>>>>> with it)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> should I update the file property via SVN? If so whats the SVN
>>>>>>>>> command
>>>>>>>>> to use?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Marcus
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