I understand your concern... But the 100k favicon.ico has been there for about 2 years. ;-)
regards, Matthias Am 05.12.2016 um 22:58 schrieb Marcus: > Am 12/05/2016 10:41 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel: >> the new Google+ design is criticised by a lot of users and is giving me >> a hard time to adapt all the logos/graphics. >> It is now similar to the phone/tablet layout... >> >> About your thoughts concerning the size of the favicon.ico: >> I reworked it. It now contains 16x16, 32x32, 48x48 and 64x64. Every >> browser should be happy with that and the size shrunk to 32k. >> >> Can you live with that? ;-) > > sure, that's better than 100k. > > PS: > I just want to be sure that you understand my concern: > We have to make sure that the loading time is not decreased just due > to some fence stuff. We have to think about pro and contra. The > webpage is opened thousand of times. The G+ webpage only by much less > people. > > Even when it's just the favicon it is opened by every browser request. > So, it starts - as always - with the first step. ;-) > > Marcus > > > >> Am 05.12.2016 um 12:29 schrieb Marcus: >>> Am 12/03/2016 12:18 AM, schrieb Matthias Seidel: >>>> I did all changes now... It could take some time to be visible. >>>> >>>> If you go to: >>>> >>>> https://plus.google.com/+openoffice >>>> >>>> there is a a link to our homepage underneath the logo. Behind the link >>>> there is a check mark. If you point the mouse on it it says >>>> "Verknüpfte >>>> Website". This is only to ensure that this website really belongs >>>> to the >>>> profile. >>>> >>>> But wait! It can be, that you see the "new" design from Google+. So it >>>> may be not visible for you. >>>> In my eyes the new design is quite ugly and not ready for release. But >>>> Google thinks it should be default... :-O >>>> >>>> Hard to explain, here is a picture (classical Google+): >>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48386075/Google%2Bverification.png >>> >>> thanks for the screenshot. Than it makes sense. As you thought already >>> I see a different webpage style. >>> >>> Marcus >>> >>> >>> >>>> Am 02.12.2016 um 23:52 schrieb Marcus: >>>>> Am 12/02/2016 08:33 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel: >>>>>> Am 02.12.2016 um 19:59 schrieb Marcus: >>>>>>> Am 12/02/2016 06:44 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel: >>>>>>>> Am 02.12.2016 um 17:42 schrieb Marcus: >>>>>>>>> Am 12/02/2016 01:11 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel: >>>>>>>>>> Last night I did some changes to our homepage... ;-) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> thanks for your update. I've some questions: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - Renewed the google-site-verification. Now we have a >>>>>>>>>> confirmed >>>>>>>>>> link to >>>>>>>>>> https://www.openoffice.org on Google+ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What is the reason to exchange the old one? Got it invalid? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No, the old one was for http, now the link is for https. Google >>>>>>>> needed a >>>>>>>> new verification code for that. >>>>>>>> Originally this was done by Rob Weir (?), so I just changed the >>>>>>>> string >>>>>>>> in index.html. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> OK, but what is now with HTTP? Isn't it then needed to have 2 >>>>>>> codes? >>>>>>> Or does the code for HTTPS include HTTP automatically? >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes. It is just to verify the quality of the link (See the checkmark >>>>>> behind the link on Google+) >>>>> >>>>> sorry, I'm not familar with G+. Wich checkmark do you mean? >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - Added favicon.png (Which now seems unnecessary, but >>>>>>>>>> doesn't >>>>>>>>>> hurt >>>>>>>>>> either) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There is already one. Please see >>>>>>>>> ".../branding/images/favicon.ico". >>>>>>>>> So, please don't put other files into the root directory except >>>>>>>>> dirs >>>>>>>>> and HTML files. It's already enough filled with things that do >>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>> belong there. ;-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nice to have a favicon in a subfolder, when it is not >>>>>>>> referenced in >>>>>>>> html. It will never be used! ;-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Browsers look by default in the root for favicon.ico. There was >>>>>>>> already >>>>>>>> one since 2014. It was 100k, the new one is 99k. >>>>>>>> But we can surely move the favicon.ico and change the link >>>>>>>> accordingly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, please. >>>>>> >>>>>> OK, I will move it to /branding/images. What to do with the old >>>>>> unused >>>>>> icon? Can I rename it? >>>>> >>>>> "favicon_16x16.ico" looks like a good name for the backup. >>>>> >>>>>> And I will delete favicon.png. Hopefully everything will work >>>>>> without >>>>>> it... >>>>> >>>>> No risk, no fun ... ;-) >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - Added a link to favicon.ico and favicon.png to get a >>>>>>>>>> thumbnail >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> the link to our homepage on YouTube >>>>>>>>>> - Increased the size of the orb in favicon.ico, so it >>>>>>>>>> looks much >>>>>>>>>> clearer now. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From 1kB to 100kB is IMHO not really an improvement. >>>>>>>>> Compared with >>>>>>>>> some Youtube visitors, this will increase the loading time of >>>>>>>>> every >>>>>>>>> webpage request. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As I said before, that 1k favicon.ico wasn't used. Who ever put it >>>>>>>> there... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But I think we can delete favicon.png. That was just a fallback. >>>>>>>> Eventually Google only needed some time to crawl the webpage. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Where can I see the icon in the Youtube channel [1]? When >>>>>>>>> checking >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> graphic links nothing refers back to get them from our webpage. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are four links at the right side of the channel graphic. >>>>>>>> Homepage >>>>>>>> is the first and had a generic icon until recently. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The icons are automatically pulled, when YouTube (Google) >>>>>>>> checks the >>>>>>>> link. That did work for Facebook, Twitter and Google+, but not >>>>>>>> for our >>>>>>>> homepage. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, that means Youtube goes to "www.openoffice.org", looks in >>>>>>> "index.html" for an favicon entry and if existing take it from the >>>>>>> given path? >>>>>> >>>>>> Right. Google pulls only the proper resolution. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you can't see the AOO orb in front of the link now, you may >>>>>>>> have to >>>>>>>> empty your browser cache and reload the page. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sure, I can see it. But I don't see an increase of quality. It's >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> same size as on our homepage. So, why is there a new and bigger >>>>>>> favicon needed? >>>>>> >>>>>> Until recently, you couldn't even see the icon... >>>>>> >>>>>> It contains graphics for different resolutions like before. >>>>>> Therefore it >>>>>> is bigger, but more versatile than a small 16x16 icon. >>>>>> We live in the times of HiDPI- and Retina-Displays! >>>>>> And the one I adapted has been there since 2014 (file date). The >>>>>> size of >>>>>> the new file is even slightly smaller now. >>>>>> >>>>>> Let me clarify, the dimensions are the same, only it uses the >>>>>> available >>>>>> space better and looks "bigger". >>>>>> >>>>>> I think you can see the difference here: >>>>>> >>>>>> old: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48386075/favicon_old.png >>>>>> new: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48386075/favicon.png >>>>> >>>>> It's indeed looking bigger - or better said it's filling the complete >>>>> available space. >>>>> >>>>> Again, thanks for the updates. >>>>> >>>>> Marcus >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> BTW, in the near future Google (Chrome) plans to mark all >>>>>>>>>> websites >>>>>>>>>> without https as "unsafe". >>>>>>>>>> We already have a certificate for our homepage, do we want to >>>>>>>>>> make >>>>>>>>>> https >>>>>>>>>> as default? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> (Some pages have problems >>>>>>>>>> (https://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html) so that >>>>>>>>>> must be >>>>>>>>>> investigated in advance) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hm, I don't see a problem here. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can see the text, but not the graphics, because they are loaded >>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>> an "unsafe place" (Firefox, Chrome and IE block this by default) >>>>>>>> This is only a problem, if we set https as default. Now the >>>>>>>> page is >>>>>>>> loaded with http. You need to use the above link to see it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for taking care. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [1] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5VAaY4mqQVhNe8j7fZCEfw >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Marcus >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That is just eye candy for our visitors... ;-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> regards, Matthias >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Am 01.12.2016 um 19:41 schrieb Marcus: >>>>>>>>>>> Am 12/01/2016 12:21 AM, schrieb Matthias Seidel: >>>>>>>>>>>> I did it already, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Upload via CMS is OK, download works via SVN. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> great, thanks. :-) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Marcus >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Am 01.12.2016 um 00:02 schrieb Marcus: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 11/30/2016 11:42 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matthias Seidel wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the CMS treats it as a text/html file. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GIMP can not open it when downloaded. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The XCF Marcus uploaded to SVN is usable. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Download it from here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (use right-click on the file name to be sure the browser >>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mess >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with it) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> should I update the file property via SVN? If so whats the >>>>>>>>>>>>> SVN >>>>>>>>>>>>> command >>>>>>>>>>>>> to use? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Marcus > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >
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