Thanks so much! On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 4:45 PM, Suneel Marthi <[email protected]> wrote:
> I can do it after 1 hr. > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Ellison Anne Williams < > [email protected] > > wrote: > > > Ok - can someone with wiki write access please post the report (the draft > > is in this email chain)? I can't seem to get into the wiki (ugh)... > > > > Thanks! > > > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 4:38 PM, Joe Witt <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > +1 > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 4:34 PM, Ellison Anne Williams > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Yes, unfortunately, the original contributors seem to have too much > on > > > > their plate to meaningfully contribute to Pirk right now. (of > course, I > > > am > > > > squarely in that space) If/when that changes, we can always revisit > > Pirk > > > > and perhaps pull it out of retirement. > > > > > > > > I will go ahead and submit the report as it is due today. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Suneel Marthi <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> I concur with everything Tim's said below. As much as I would hate > to > > > see > > > >> this podling retired, its impossible to sustain this project without > > the > > > >> original committers around. > > > >> > > > >> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 8:38 AM, Tim Ellison <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > On 28/02/17 16:36, Josh Elser wrote: > > > >> > > I would reword the following: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > "Recently, there has been discussion on the mailing list about > > > retiring > > > >> > > Pirk (putting it in the attic) for right now" > > > >> > > > > > >> > > to be something more like > > > >> > > > > > >> > > "A discussion on the mailing list resulted in multiple previous > > > >> > > contributors agreeing with a mentor suggestion to move Pirk > > towards > > > >> > > retirement." > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Given Tim and Suneel's contributions to the project, I want to > > hear > > > >> back > > > >> > > from them again before moving forward with the retirement steps. > > As > > > two > > > >> > > veterans, I would have confidence that they could continue the > > > podling > > > >> > > if they so desire. > > > >> > > > > >> > Apologies for being quiet for the last few weeks. That has been > > > >> > personal reasons rather than a lack of interest in Pirk. > > > >> > > > > >> > I also appreciate the confidence you express that Suneel and I > could > > > >> > continue the podling. > > > >> > > > > >> > With the greatest of respect to Suneel, I think that would be very > > > >> > difficult without the original contributors' participation, as > they > > > have > > > >> > the deep background required to validate any proposed changes. We > > > have > > > >> > already seen cases where my enthusiastic enhancements have been > > > tempered > > > >> > by the team's sober reality checks; and this is not the type of > > system > > > >> > that can survive rookie errors. I really appreciate the patient > > > >> > mentoring offered to me by the community. > > > >> > > > > >> > If we are destined to loose the full set of initial committers > then > > I > > > >> > think it is inevitable, and wise, to retire the podling. I signed > > up > > > as > > > >> > a mentor because this is a cool technology. While I understand > the > > > >> > reasons, I'll be disappointed to see it disappear from the Apache > > > family. > > > >> > > > > >> > Regards, > > > >> > Tim > > > >> > > > > >> > > Thanks, Ellison Anne. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > - Josh > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Ellison Anne Williams wrote: > > > >> > >> Any other feedback for the report? It's due tomorrow... Thanks! > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Jacob Wilder< > > > >> > >> [email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >>> I’m in the same boat as Walter—my duties at work have taken > up a > > > >> > greater > > > >> > >>> portion of my time and I haven’t had the time to contribute to > > > Pirk. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> On 2/27/17, 08:12, "Walter Ray-Dulany"<[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> Sorry, I've been busy with work, and everything else has > > > fallen > > > >> > >>> off of > > > >> > >>> my > > > >> > >>> plate. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> I don't have time to be involved for the foreseeable > > future. > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> Walter > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 9:33 PM, Josh Elser< > > > [email protected]> > > > >> > >>> wrote: > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > Just wanted to clarify: the Attic is not the right > > > phrasing > > > >> for > > > >> > >>> podlings. > > > >> > >>> > Pirk would just retire from incubation. The following > > doc > > > >> > >>> sums this > > > >> > >>> up. > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > Ellison Anne, I appreciate your candor in this > > situation. > > > I > > > >> > >>> am also > > > >> > >>> rather > > > >> > >>> > surprised at the radio silence from those who were > > > previously > > > >> > >>> active > > > >> > >>> in > > > >> > >>> > Pirk. Tracy, Christopher, Walter, and Jacob: comments > or > > > >> > >>> opinions? > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > I would also be curious in hearing what Suneel and Tim > > > have > > > >> > >>> to say > > > >> > >>> (with > > > >> > >>> > the previous DISCUSS in mind). > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > Ellison Anne Williams wrote: > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> >> Hi Guys, > > > >> > >>> >> > > > >> > >>> >> As per the recent discussion on the mailing list, it > > > seems > > > >> > >>> that it > > > >> > >>> may be > > > >> > >>> >> best to put Pirk in the attic for a while. For > varying > > > >> > >>> reasons, the > > > >> > >>> >> previous active contributors don't seem to be able to > > > devote > > > >> > >>> serious > > > >> > >>> >> cycles > > > >> > >>> >> to Pirk right now and the Pirk community has not been > > > >> > >>> growing. I > > > >> > >>> have > > > >> > >>> >> drafted the podling report below as such - please let > > me > > > >> > >>> know if > > > >> > >>> think > > > >> > >>> >> otherwise. The podling report is due on Wednesday, > > March > > > 1. > > > >> > >>> >> > > > >> > >>> >> Thanks- > > > >> > >>> >> > > > >> > >>> >> Ellison Anne > > > >> > >>> >> > > > >> > >>> >> PirkPirk is a framework for scalable Private > > Information > > > >> > >>> Retrieval > > > >> > >>> >> (PIR).Pirk has been incubating since 2016-06-17. The > > > initial > > > >> > >>> code > > > >> > >>> for > > > >> > >>> >> Pirk wasgranted on 2016-07-11.Three most important > > > issues to > > > >> > >>> address > > > >> > >>> >> in the move towards graduation: 1. Grow the > community > > to > > > >> > >>> establish > > > >> > >>> >> diversity of background and expertise. 2. Establish > a > > > >> formal > > > >> > >>> release > > > >> > >>> >> process and schedule, allowing for dependable > > release > > > >> > >>> cycles in > > > >> > >>> a > > > >> > >>> >> manner consistent with the Apache development > > > process. > > > >> > >>> 3. Add > > > >> > >>> to > > > >> > >>> >> and improve the Pirk user documentation and examples > > > both on > > > >> > >>> the > > > >> > >>> >> website and in the codebaseAny issues that the > > Incubator > > > PMC > > > >> > >>> (IPMC) > > > >> > >>> or > > > >> > >>> >> ASF Board wish/need to beaware of? Yes. The Pirk > > > community > > > >> > >>> >> participation and growth has stalled over the last > few > > > >> months. > > > >> > >>> >> Recently, there has been discussion on the mailing > list > > > >> about > > > >> > >>> retiring > > > >> > >>> >> Pirk (putting it in the attic) for right now.How has > > the > > > >> > >>> community > > > >> > >>> >> developed since the last report? The Pirk community > > has > > > not > > > >> > >>> developed > > > >> > >>> >> since the last report - there have been no new > > > contributors > > > >> or > > > >> > >>> >> committers added.How has the project developed since > > the > > > >> last > > > >> > >>> report? > > > >> > >>> >> The Pirk project has stalled - the existing community > > has > > > >> > >>> not been > > > >> > >>> >> active nor has the community grown.Date of last > > release: > > > >> > >>> October 9, > > > >> > >>> >> 2016When were the last committers or PMC members > > elected? > > > >> > Pirk > > > >> > >>> >> elected two new committers (Tim Ellison and Suneel > > > Marthi, > > > >> > both > > > >> > >>> >> mentors) on August 18, 2016. > > > >> > >>> >> > > > >> > >>> >> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >
