Done. Mentors, please go ahead and sign-off on the report and add ur comments.
Thanx On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Ellison Anne Williams <[email protected] > wrote: > Ok - can someone with wiki write access please post the report (the draft > is in this email chain)? I can't seem to get into the wiki (ugh)... > > Thanks! > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 4:38 PM, Joe Witt <[email protected]> wrote: > > > +1 > > > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 4:34 PM, Ellison Anne Williams > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Yes, unfortunately, the original contributors seem to have too much on > > > their plate to meaningfully contribute to Pirk right now. (of course, I > > am > > > squarely in that space) If/when that changes, we can always revisit > Pirk > > > and perhaps pull it out of retirement. > > > > > > I will go ahead and submit the report as it is due today. > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Suneel Marthi <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > >> I concur with everything Tim's said below. As much as I would hate to > > see > > >> this podling retired, its impossible to sustain this project without > the > > >> original committers around. > > >> > > >> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 8:38 AM, Tim Ellison <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > >> > > >> > On 28/02/17 16:36, Josh Elser wrote: > > >> > > I would reword the following: > > >> > > > > >> > > "Recently, there has been discussion on the mailing list about > > retiring > > >> > > Pirk (putting it in the attic) for right now" > > >> > > > > >> > > to be something more like > > >> > > > > >> > > "A discussion on the mailing list resulted in multiple previous > > >> > > contributors agreeing with a mentor suggestion to move Pirk > towards > > >> > > retirement." > > >> > > > > >> > > Given Tim and Suneel's contributions to the project, I want to > hear > > >> back > > >> > > from them again before moving forward with the retirement steps. > As > > two > > >> > > veterans, I would have confidence that they could continue the > > podling > > >> > > if they so desire. > > >> > > > >> > Apologies for being quiet for the last few weeks. That has been > > >> > personal reasons rather than a lack of interest in Pirk. > > >> > > > >> > I also appreciate the confidence you express that Suneel and I could > > >> > continue the podling. > > >> > > > >> > With the greatest of respect to Suneel, I think that would be very > > >> > difficult without the original contributors' participation, as they > > have > > >> > the deep background required to validate any proposed changes. We > > have > > >> > already seen cases where my enthusiastic enhancements have been > > tempered > > >> > by the team's sober reality checks; and this is not the type of > system > > >> > that can survive rookie errors. I really appreciate the patient > > >> > mentoring offered to me by the community. > > >> > > > >> > If we are destined to loose the full set of initial committers then > I > > >> > think it is inevitable, and wise, to retire the podling. I signed > up > > as > > >> > a mentor because this is a cool technology. While I understand the > > >> > reasons, I'll be disappointed to see it disappear from the Apache > > family. > > >> > > > >> > Regards, > > >> > Tim > > >> > > > >> > > Thanks, Ellison Anne. > > >> > > > > >> > > - Josh > > >> > > > > >> > > Ellison Anne Williams wrote: > > >> > >> Any other feedback for the report? It's due tomorrow... Thanks! > > >> > >> > > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Jacob Wilder< > > >> > >> [email protected]> wrote: > > >> > >> > > >> > >>> I’m in the same boat as Walter—my duties at work have taken up a > > >> > greater > > >> > >>> portion of my time and I haven’t had the time to contribute to > > Pirk. > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> On 2/27/17, 08:12, "Walter Ray-Dulany"<[email protected]> > > wrote: > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> Sorry, I've been busy with work, and everything else has > > fallen > > >> > >>> off of > > >> > >>> my > > >> > >>> plate. > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> I don't have time to be involved for the foreseeable > future. > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> Walter > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 9:33 PM, Josh Elser< > > [email protected]> > > >> > >>> wrote: > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > Just wanted to clarify: the Attic is not the right > > phrasing > > >> for > > >> > >>> podlings. > > >> > >>> > Pirk would just retire from incubation. The following > doc > > >> > >>> sums this > > >> > >>> up. > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > Ellison Anne, I appreciate your candor in this > situation. > > I > > >> > >>> am also > > >> > >>> rather > > >> > >>> > surprised at the radio silence from those who were > > previously > > >> > >>> active > > >> > >>> in > > >> > >>> > Pirk. Tracy, Christopher, Walter, and Jacob: comments or > > >> > >>> opinions? > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > I would also be curious in hearing what Suneel and Tim > > have > > >> > >>> to say > > >> > >>> (with > > >> > >>> > the previous DISCUSS in mind). > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > Ellison Anne Williams wrote: > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> >> Hi Guys, > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> As per the recent discussion on the mailing list, it > > seems > > >> > >>> that it > > >> > >>> may be > > >> > >>> >> best to put Pirk in the attic for a while. For varying > > >> > >>> reasons, the > > >> > >>> >> previous active contributors don't seem to be able to > > devote > > >> > >>> serious > > >> > >>> >> cycles > > >> > >>> >> to Pirk right now and the Pirk community has not been > > >> > >>> growing. I > > >> > >>> have > > >> > >>> >> drafted the podling report below as such - please let > me > > >> > >>> know if > > >> > >>> think > > >> > >>> >> otherwise. The podling report is due on Wednesday, > March > > 1. > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> Thanks- > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> Ellison Anne > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> PirkPirk is a framework for scalable Private > Information > > >> > >>> Retrieval > > >> > >>> >> (PIR).Pirk has been incubating since 2016-06-17. The > > initial > > >> > >>> code > > >> > >>> for > > >> > >>> >> Pirk wasgranted on 2016-07-11.Three most important > > issues to > > >> > >>> address > > >> > >>> >> in the move towards graduation: 1. Grow the community > to > > >> > >>> establish > > >> > >>> >> diversity of background and expertise. 2. Establish a > > >> formal > > >> > >>> release > > >> > >>> >> process and schedule, allowing for dependable > release > > >> > >>> cycles in > > >> > >>> a > > >> > >>> >> manner consistent with the Apache development > > process. > > >> > >>> 3. Add > > >> > >>> to > > >> > >>> >> and improve the Pirk user documentation and examples > > both on > > >> > >>> the > > >> > >>> >> website and in the codebaseAny issues that the > Incubator > > PMC > > >> > >>> (IPMC) > > >> > >>> or > > >> > >>> >> ASF Board wish/need to beaware of? Yes. The Pirk > > community > > >> > >>> >> participation and growth has stalled over the last few > > >> months. > > >> > >>> >> Recently, there has been discussion on the mailing list > > >> about > > >> > >>> retiring > > >> > >>> >> Pirk (putting it in the attic) for right now.How has > the > > >> > >>> community > > >> > >>> >> developed since the last report? The Pirk community > has > > not > > >> > >>> developed > > >> > >>> >> since the last report - there have been no new > > contributors > > >> or > > >> > >>> >> committers added.How has the project developed since > the > > >> last > > >> > >>> report? > > >> > >>> >> The Pirk project has stalled - the existing community > has > > >> > >>> not been > > >> > >>> >> active nor has the community grown.Date of last > release: > > >> > >>> October 9, > > >> > >>> >> 2016When were the last committers or PMC members > elected? > > >> > Pirk > > >> > >>> >> elected two new committers (Tim Ellison and Suneel > > Marthi, > > >> > both > > >> > >>> >> mentors) on August 18, 2016. > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >
