Hi,
Am Mon, 27 Jun 2005 16:29:09 +0900, schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>> I do not have a problem with it. I have a problem with guys
>> flaming against Sun @ OOo all the time.
>
> There was no flaming against Sun and OOo, at most a
> misunderstanding because you sent your mail from a sun address.
>
> The issue is more with some OOo/OSX porting volunteers (and not
> only them since I am not aware Sophie is porting) who'd rather
> complain against the NeoOffice team than thank them for their
> hard work.
How many times do I have to write that I appreciate the workd Ed
and Dan to until you read it?
> I mean it is just not correct/polite to complain about other
> volunteers who say "THANK YOU" in very clear terms at the top of
> their mail
Yes. There was a THANK YOU but it was before the PR. The official
PR begins with
Introducing NeoOffice(r)/J 1.1
Sunnyvale, California, USA - Planamesa Software and the
NeoOffice.org community are proud to introduce NeoOffice(r)/J 1.1,
a Mac
OS X-native version of the OpenOffice.org office suite that includes
Microsoft Office-compatible word processing, spreadsheet,
presentation
and drawing applications.
And so on. There is no "hank you" to us X11 porters in it.
> and make references to the OOo origin of their work
> all over their PR.
Yes they reference to the OOo origin of their work but they claim
for them to have done the "only" Mac OS X version of OOo and that's
what makes me furios.
There is no sentence that says something like: A big thank you goes
out to the developers of OpenOffice.org 1.1.x for X11. Without
their hard work porting OOo 1.1.4 into Neo/J would have taken
significant longer" or something like that.
> The least OOo/OSX volunteers can do is thank them in return
> because without NeoOffice a huge category of OSX users would
> never be able to appreciate the OOo/OSX porting team efforts.
Yes. But why do I get the impression that Ed and Patrick claim that
they do *everything* their own? You and I both knwo that this isn't
true. They don't do everything their own. They take OOo X11 code,
fix it, modify it a bit to fit Neo/J and then write the Neo/J GUI
and add-ons around it.
And for 2.0 why do I get the strange feeling that they only donated
code to us in order to let us do the work of adopting it to 2.0?
Simply read the mail of Ed Peterlin and you will understand what I
mean. He points out to me how easy it is to do the adopting of the
code and create fixes. I now only wonder that if it is that easy
why don't he or Patrick do it? They don't do it simply because it
is dirty every day work which won't bring you headlines and that is
all Ed and Patrick want. Beeing the hereos of the day for the Mac
OS X community that thanks to their glorious work has a "native"
version of OOo for Mac OS X. There is an X11 port - ugly, useless
etc. But that this ugly and useless X11 port is the base for Neo/J
and that without it Ed and Patrick first would have to do the work
of
first getting 1.1.4 and 2.0 codeline to Mac OS X and only
afterwards can add their Neo/J stuff and that this
would significantly slow down Neo/J isn't mentioned with a single
word.
To not foregt it he gave back he and Ed made for the X11 code but
too bad that this came to late and therefore work was already done
twice.
Regards,
Eric Hoch
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