Hi Jean-Christophe, Am Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:56:07 +0900, schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: >> Instead of having five developers working on a stable OOo 2.0 X11 >> port, which would lead to an earlier release of NO 2.0, a better > > But Eric, you can't set priorities for people. And just because > people work on your code you can't say they are stealing. That is > what FOSS is about.
I know what FOSS is about but FOSS also is about giving back code, working together and not only using it. I know that LGPL/SISL don't have that strong rule of publish your code that GPL has but it would only be fair from Patrick and Ed if they would do so if they have the same goal in making a good OOo Aqua port for Mac OS X users. Martin Hollmichel asked about two times why he should put OOo under GPL or only the Mac port. Both times neither Ed nor Patrick answered. Dan Williams answred but he couldn't give an answer for them only suggest what Ed and Patrick may think. SUN asked and nobody answered. >> O.K. We, OOo X11 devs and supporters, can stop working on the X11 >> base immediately and see how long it will take for Ed and Patrick >> to have a NO 2.0 without a X11 2.0. > > It is not about that. It is about stopping to complain that NO is > doing something that you can't copy because it is GPLed. If you don't want to understand it is more or less useless to explain it to you. Maybe it is because I have to use the english language which is a foreign one for me and therefore I cannot really say what I mean. In short I complain about that Ed and Patrick don't do every day work on Mac OS X port - they do the "sunny side of live" work - which I can only repeat it for the xth time - is much work to do and during this work they find bugs and Patrick gives back his code etc pp. But this happens not in time. He finds bugs, he fixes them and he waits to give them back until he has a need for them in a OOo 2.0 that he needs for his NO 2.0. It would have been much more easier if he had donated the code after he fixed the bug. He has a JCA and so he can commmit. That's the point. The work was done twice and "wasted" the time of two devs. If we would have had the fix we could have focused on other nitty things in OOo 2.0 code. We do work twice where it would could do it once. > And if _you_ don't do the 2.0 OSX port somebody else is going to do it. Yes. Sure but this someone will need time to get into porting and this will take a time and so delay NO 2.0 a bit longer. > It is not about personal issues. > > Complaining about people who volunteer their time and money to > make your product a better product is _not_ right. I don't complain about Ed and Patrick. I complain about the way they work together with us. I guess that about 90% of this is due to misscommunication and old incidents of the past. Intersting is that neither Ed nor Patrick, both are afaik subscribed to this list, do answer here in this threat. Instead you and others think they know what Patrick/Ed thinks and answer for him. Another point. Regards, Eric Hoch -- ## Ansprechpartner Anwenderunterstützung, users-Mailingliste, MacOSX ## de.OpenOffice.org - Office für MacOS X, Linux, Solaris & Windows ## Openoffice.org - ich steck mit drin! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
