Hi Jean-Christophe, Am Fri, 24 Jun 2005 23:33:00 +0900, schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: >>> Reading lists in Japanese, French and English, the only thing I >>> can see is that end users are extremely satisfied by the the >>> work achieved by the NeoOffice team to bring OOo to par with >>> other native (or close) OSX applications. >> >> I agree. But it would be better firstly to get the base of both >> office implementations bug free. Instead of getting 1.1.x >> codebase more Mac-like the OOo 2.0 is much more important >> because it will be the base for next releases also of >> NeoOffice/J. > > That's Sun's opinion.
No!!!!! That's Joergs opionen. He used his sun.com Emailaddress but that's all. Sun has given Mac Port into the hands of independent developers. All Sunnies working on OS X do this in their spare time. They don't get paid for this. > And as Oscar wrote, there are only 2.5 people working on NO. Yes and three working on the OS X OOo X11 port. Instead of having five developers working on a stable OOo 2.0 X11 port, which would lead to an earlier release of NO 2.0, a better exchange of ideas, better communication and maybe to one Mac OS X team, we have three developers working on X11 and two developers who write a nice GUI for the X11 code base when all the work is done all bugs are solved. This is what I meant with stealing. Again. I appretiate the work of Ed and Patrick and I can imagine that they work as hard as we X11 folks do and that they have as much work to do as we have. > Considering the problem from the user's side It is clear that removing X11 dependancy from the code > should be considered a priority. Indeed you are right here. > X11 is an anomaly in the OSX world. OSX development does not happen on the X11 base. X11 is > only here to give access to legacy applications. What a complete bullshit. Do you really think Apple would release an X11 if X11 is anomaly? X11 is normal for a UNIX and Mac OS X is a UNIX if you didn't knew that. Apple only felt that X11 is anomaly but was teached better by its end-users. > OSX development does not happen on the X11 base. X11 is > only here to give access to legacy applications. O.K. We, OOo X11 devs and supporters, can stop working on the X11 base immediately and see how long it will take for Ed and Patrick to have a NO 2.0 without a X11 2.0. Rumours say that it was Patrick Lubys decission, back when he worked at SUN, to use X11 for Mac OS X port of OOo and do the migration to Cocoa later. Go ask him. > If Sun thinks providing what looks like legacy applications on > OSX is an option, it is very possible that OSX users will not > show much interest in OOo. Again. Sun has nothing to do with the Mac port. They are not involved in the Mac port. > Why can't Sun take the responsibility of working on removing X11 > dependancy and still keep a portable code base ? Why should Sun remove the X11 depency? Afaik they need it for Linux OOo so it would be nonsense to do so. Regards, Eric Hoch -- ## Ansprechpartner Anwenderunterstützung, users-Mailingliste, MacOSX ## de.OpenOffice.org - Office für MacOS X, Linux, Solaris & Windows ## Openoffice.org - ich steck mit drin! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
