At 8:06 AM +0200 8/8/06, Andre Schnabel wrote, in a thread entitled
"[qa-dev] Questions about TCM (was: newbie tester Q's)"
*sigh* .. will try to do. But I'd be happy to get some help form the
TCM-Team. (As said I'm just an end user as you .. ok, end user with
special rights)
I've already begun (just barely!) developing some content with the
idea of creating a good "start here" page for end-users who are
unfamiliar with the whole project, so that more of us can be
recruited for helping with testing. I would like to solicit help from
amongst the many colleagues I can reach via discussion lists in my
own niche industry. And since my own personal investment in this is
to see an Aqua version of OOo, chances are good I can get an
*article* published in TidBITS newsletter (see tidbits.com) extolling
the virtues of the product and soliciting testers particularly to
advance the OS X (native) port.
But as things stand now, the information one needs to get rapidly
up-and-running as an end user is all over the place on different
pages (just an observation, not a complaint) And TCM'S Test Update
has me absolutely flummoxed. If we want good participation, then we
want folks to get going quickly, and give them what is really
_minimal_ information that is needed for end-user testing on one
short page (and "better instructions for TCM ... YES. It is
completely unclear and unexplained to a stranger exactly how one is
to enter results ..; was expecting a web form, all I could find is an
"upload file" button and I have no idea WHAT FILE ... and . Not a lot
to write, just some work to pare down to "only what end-users doing
qa need to know" from what is, to a "stranger", an absolutely
daunting and overwhelming amount of information located in various
places. ("bad enough" that we end-users hang out on this qa list
where most of the posts are so technical as to make one feel one must
have mistaken the instructions regarding which list to join.... to
this day I feel like "I must be in the wrong place!" ... so at least
a friendly web page would ameliorate the intimidation factor from
cooexsting with all you [lovely] "propellor heads' on this list!]
This is a site usability thing ... the site is just not ready for the
testers we need on the project! So I hope that the upside of all my
struggles will be that I can take my own points of confusion and
create a constructive project of my own to submit to someone as
suggested content. If the powers-that-be for the qa site don't like
it, I'll just put it on my own site to point recruits to ... and it
will go a long way towards providing *me* a little sanity.
As for my assignment, I feel so badly that I am just unable to even
start until I have "click on this this, then on that" explanation. I
finally found what I thought was going to be a web-form for typing in
my results, but I could only find an "upload file" button, have no
idea what file, and so I looked for something to download but the
link has a ".cgi" extension and I have no clue what i would do with
that! (don't answer these here ... read on)
To sum up, I would like to see an end-user manual for doing test
cases, and cannot help test until I have such a manual, so I'll help
create one. Rather than clutter this list with a back-and-forth,
should/can I communicate with one individual to develop "OOo QA for
Dummies" :-)
I will make it easy on this individual by presenting them with
structured Q's for them to reply to with quick A's, then I will turn
it into something readable. All I need is literally 15 minutes to 1/2
hour of someone's time for an email exchange, and then I'll create
something persistent out of it so you guys do not have to answer the
same Q's on this list over and over as more strangers-to-OOo join
this list as newbie end-user testers....
kazar
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