Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:

Hi Louis,

My aim was not to insult you or attempt to cleave a rift in the community as a whole, but it is a common, and rather annoying tendency, in free software projects, to consider that copyrights can just be considered as equivalent to a piece of paper that one may dispose of wherever one wishes. This is inherent in the anglo-saxon culture of copyright, which literally is considered an object of property, and particularly in North America. One only has to look at common copyright licences or assignment agreements by US based software companies to understand that. The JCA is one such example, but the agreement that the FSF asks coders to sign and assign their rights to them isn't (or wasn't, I haven't seen it lately) much better, to be honest.

I am British, although I live and work in France, as an Intellectual Property lawyer. Now, whilst I would fully admit that France is the copyright kingdom of the world, perhaps excessively so, there remains deeply ingrained in authors' works a profound sense of moral rights that can not be whisked away at the touch of a pen on a contract. This has again recently been restated very clearly in a decision by the Supreme Court in France. Similar provisions exist in other civil (Roman or codified) law based European nations, and their inevitable non-European and former colonial offspring.

The problem with documentation is a thorny one, as we have already seen in the past. The absence of a clear policy from the start has lead to branching of the documentation project, and the creation of other communities of authors who were dissatisfied with the situation as it stood. The lack of stance and a clear, common policy by the OOo Community was telling in this regard. Things have got better, but to be honest, there is still no clear policy statement, at least not to my knowledge, or unless I am very much mistaken, which I could be, since I don't intimately follow the politics of the OOo Community.

It would be interesting to know whether such a topic has ever been seriously discussed at the CC, for example, or whether public consultation has been requested. Certainly, I have never seen any, and am present on many of the mailing lists, albeit no longer on the English users list (too high volume).

In a previous discussion with André, I considered setting up a Legal project within the Community, in order to be able to discuss this kind of thing as a forum for debating and obtaining agreement as to policy statements that could be made by the Community and appear on the site. This wouldn't IMHO be the sole remit of such a project, but it would of course require expertise from my peers in the various participating countries, assuming we actually have any (which I don't know at this present time). At the moment, I don't have the time to commit to such a project, at least not on my own, and it would inevitably mean my giving up participation in some of the others, qa testing for example, or FR documentation, but I am still giving it some serious thought, because a project of this size needs a legal conscience of some kind, and as yet it has none, save that offered by its major sponsor, Sun, to which we, unfortunately, in the Community are not privy.

Alex

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