Achim, I talk to you as you are involved a lot on Karaf development and mailing list:
Karaf 2.3.3 introduces a Maven transitive dependency on Equinox 3.8.0 that is not available on maven central repo, this is a problem for people like me who have a policy that filter Maven repositories from which to retrieve artifacts, I strongly believe this to be a best practice of using maven and I don't want to change, and it helps keeping the project clean. How can we push Karaf community to upgrade to Equinox to 3.9.1-v20130814-1242 for next Karaf (2.3.5 ?) and use that one for ServiceMix 5? Thank you for listening to my concerns, Cristiano 2014-02-18 8:36 GMT+01:00 Achim Nierbeck <[email protected]>: > Hi, > > since I've not been aware of this rather "major" change of dropping JBI/NMR > from ServiceMix I'm fine to do a ServiceMix 5 with Karaf 2.2.3 as the big > thing that changes is internal to ServiceMix, so yes it sounds more then > reasonable to do a ServiceMix 6 with Karaf 3 :) > > regards, Achim > > > 2014-02-18 3:13 GMT+01:00 Freeman Fang <[email protected]>: > > > +1 for SMX 5 with Karaf 2.3.x and SMX 6 with Karaf 3.x > > > > We better give more time for community to adopt Karaf 3.x, collect more > > feedback of Karaf 3.x in Karaf community, etc. And then SMX move to Karaf > > 3.x > > －－－－－－－－－－－－－ > > Freeman(Yue) Fang > > > > Red Hat, Inc. > > FuseSource is now part of Red Hat > > > > > > > > On 2014-2-18, at 上午9:49, Gert Vanthienen wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > Raul had one more suggestion to add to that list: doing a 4.6.0 with > > > Karaf 2.3.x and using Karaf 3.x for ServiceMix 5. Instead of > > > resorting to a vote for something like this, I think it would be > > > better to try and build a consensus first. > > > > > > I think we should go for "SMX 5 with Karaf 2.3.x and SMX 6 with Karaf > > > 3.x", for two reasons: > > > - From a "marketing" perspective, using Karaf 2.x for ServiceMix 5 and > > > Karaf 3.x for ServiceMix 6 would give us the opportunity to signal two > > > important changes to the community: officially dropping JBI/NMR > > > support would be the highlight of ServiceMix and Karaf 3 would be the > > > highlight for ServiceMix 6. We can probably even get the first > > > ServiceMix 5 release out next week or so, if we focus on the task at > > > hand and if all goes well. > > > - From a technical perspective, this does give us quite a bit of > > > flexibility to cater to the needs of the community by allowing us to > > > nicely do Karaf 2.3.x/2.4.x and 3.x based releases side-by-side for a > > > while, until we managed to convince everyone to switch to Karaf 3 ;). > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Gert > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Krzysztof Sobkowiak > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Hi > > >> > > >> I think somebody should start the vote. We have 2 options: > > >> > > >> * SMX 5 with Karaf 2.3.x and SMX 6 with Karaf 3.x > > >> * SMX 4.9 with Karaf 2.3.x and SMX 5 with Karaf 3.x > > >> > > >> Regards > > >> Krzysztof > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On 17.02.2014 16:59, Cristiano Costantini wrote: > > >>> > > >>> I've already repeated my position up to be annoying :-) but I repeat > > that > > >>> for me either solutions are ok > > >>> Maybe a quick vote could be the fastest and more democratic way to > > take a > > >>> decision ?s > > >>> > > >>> Could someone please summarize the available options? > > >>> > > >>> Regards, > > >>> Cristiano > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> 2014-02-17 16:53 GMT+01:00 Gert Vanthienen < > [email protected] > > >: > > >>> > > >>>> Hi Raul, > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> Yeah, I think 4.9.0 is a bit of a strange version number as well. > But > > >>>> you're also right that some users will take a bit longer to move > over > > >>>> to Karaf 3. What's more: the version may not even be as temporary > > >>>> for us as we would hope, perhaps we end up doing another release in > > >>>> that series if people in the community are asking about another > Karaf > > >>>> 2.x based release after this one. > > >>>> > > >>>> We do want that to be based on the current ServiceMix 5 codebase > > >>>> (without JBI/NMR) and not on the current ServiceMix 4.x codebase? > > >>>> Because the latter was the original plan and we failed to get any > > >>>> contributors to help out with that effort. > > >>>> > > >>>> I do wonder if we won't end up confusing people as well, when > > >>>> ServiceMix 4.6.0 suddenly no longer has any JBI/NMR support in > there. > > >>>> We can probably communicate that though, so it might not be that > big a > > >>>> problem, but we might also want to reconsider Krzysztof's proposal > to > > >>>> go with 5.x for the Karaf 2.x-based assemblies without JBI/NMR (and > we > > >>>> can have a few of those, using Karaf 2.3.x and 2.4.x) and use 6.x > for > > >>>> the Karaf 3-based assemblies. > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > -- > > Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC > OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/> Committer & > Project Lead > OPS4J Pax for Vaadin <http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home> > Commiter & Project Lead > blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/> >
