Hi Cristiano, Equinox is a big PITA right now, as they just don't respect maven and therefore it always needs other to publish a Equinox version. This as a background information. Regarding upgrading to a higher version of Equinox for Karaf 2.3.5 I'm not sure as Equinox does support different OSGi standards with minor version upgrades. So this is something that needs to be discussed on the Karaf mailinglist, for broader audience ;). Besides this I fully understand your concerns and I personally prefer to use a maven central also, though certain versions of Equinox aren't available and need to be supplied by different means.
regards, Achim 2014-02-18 8:50 GMT+01:00 Cristiano Costantini < [email protected]>: > Achim, I talk to you as you are involved a lot on Karaf development and > mailing list: > > Karaf 2.3.3 introduces a Maven transitive dependency on Equinox 3.8.0 that > is not available on maven central repo, > this is a problem for people like me who have a policy that filter Maven > repositories from which to retrieve artifacts, > > I strongly believe this to be a best practice of using maven and I don't > want to change, and it helps keeping the project clean. > How can we push Karaf community to upgrade to Equinox to > 3.9.1-v20130814-1242 for next Karaf (2.3.5 ?) and use that one for > ServiceMix 5? > > Thank you for listening to my concerns, > Cristiano > > > > 2014-02-18 8:36 GMT+01:00 Achim Nierbeck <[email protected]>: > > > Hi, > > > > since I've not been aware of this rather "major" change of dropping > JBI/NMR > > from ServiceMix I'm fine to do a ServiceMix 5 with Karaf 2.2.3 as the big > > thing that changes is internal to ServiceMix, so yes it sounds more then > > reasonable to do a ServiceMix 6 with Karaf 3 :) > > > > regards, Achim > > > > > > 2014-02-18 3:13 GMT+01:00 Freeman Fang <[email protected]>: > > > > > +1 for SMX 5 with Karaf 2.3.x and SMX 6 with Karaf 3.x > > > > > > We better give more time for community to adopt Karaf 3.x, collect more > > > feedback of Karaf 3.x in Karaf community, etc. And then SMX move to > Karaf > > > 3.x > > > －－－－－－－－－－－－－ > > > Freeman(Yue) Fang > > > > > > Red Hat, Inc. > > > FuseSource is now part of Red Hat > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2014-2-18, at 上午9:49, Gert Vanthienen wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > Raul had one more suggestion to add to that list: doing a 4.6.0 with > > > > Karaf 2.3.x and using Karaf 3.x for ServiceMix 5. Instead of > > > > resorting to a vote for something like this, I think it would be > > > > better to try and build a consensus first. > > > > > > > > I think we should go for "SMX 5 with Karaf 2.3.x and SMX 6 with Karaf > > > > 3.x", for two reasons: > > > > - From a "marketing" perspective, using Karaf 2.x for ServiceMix 5 > and > > > > Karaf 3.x for ServiceMix 6 would give us the opportunity to signal > two > > > > important changes to the community: officially dropping JBI/NMR > > > > support would be the highlight of ServiceMix and Karaf 3 would be the > > > > highlight for ServiceMix 6. We can probably even get the first > > > > ServiceMix 5 release out next week or so, if we focus on the task at > > > > hand and if all goes well. > > > > - From a technical perspective, this does give us quite a bit of > > > > flexibility to cater to the needs of the community by allowing us to > > > > nicely do Karaf 2.3.x/2.4.x and 3.x based releases side-by-side for a > > > > while, until we managed to convince everyone to switch to Karaf 3 ;). > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Gert > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Krzysztof Sobkowiak > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Hi > > > >> > > > >> I think somebody should start the vote. We have 2 options: > > > >> > > > >> * SMX 5 with Karaf 2.3.x and SMX 6 with Karaf 3.x > > > >> * SMX 4.9 with Karaf 2.3.x and SMX 5 with Karaf 3.x > > > >> > > > >> Regards > > > >> Krzysztof > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On 17.02.2014 16:59, Cristiano Costantini wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> I've already repeated my position up to be annoying :-) but I > repeat > > > that > > > >>> for me either solutions are ok > > > >>> Maybe a quick vote could be the fastest and more democratic way to > > > take a > > > >>> decision ?s > > > >>> > > > >>> Could someone please summarize the available options? > > > >>> > > > >>> Regards, > > > >>> Cristiano > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> 2014-02-17 16:53 GMT+01:00 Gert Vanthienen < > > [email protected] > > > >: > > > >>> > > > >>>> Hi Raul, > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Yeah, I think 4.9.0 is a bit of a strange version number as well. > > But > > > >>>> you're also right that some users will take a bit longer to move > > over > > > >>>> to Karaf 3. What's more: the version may not even be as > temporary > > > >>>> for us as we would hope, perhaps we end up doing another release > in > > > >>>> that series if people in the community are asking about another > > Karaf > > > >>>> 2.x based release after this one. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> We do want that to be based on the current ServiceMix 5 codebase > > > >>>> (without JBI/NMR) and not on the current ServiceMix 4.x codebase? > > > >>>> Because the latter was the original plan and we failed to get any > > > >>>> contributors to help out with that effort. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I do wonder if we won't end up confusing people as well, when > > > >>>> ServiceMix 4.6.0 suddenly no longer has any JBI/NMR support in > > there. > > > >>>> We can probably communicate that though, so it might not be that > > big a > > > >>>> problem, but we might also want to reconsider Krzysztof's proposal > > to > > > >>>> go with 5.x for the Karaf 2.x-based assemblies without JBI/NMR > (and > > we > > > >>>> can have a few of those, using Karaf 2.3.x and 2.4.x) and use 6.x > > for > > > >>>> the Karaf 3-based assemblies. > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC > > OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/> Committer > & > > Project Lead > > OPS4J Pax for Vaadin <http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home> > > Commiter & Project Lead > > blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/> > > > -- Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/> Committer & Project Lead OPS4J Pax for Vaadin <http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home> Commiter & Project Lead blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/>
