We used to have the concept of a sandbox which allowed folks to play with different ideas https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tomee/sandbox/. I it did a while back (ok, 10 years back - has it really been that long...?) for an Eclipse plugin. I think we need a safe place where experimentation can happen and code can be committed and worked on (that isn't just a PR). A number of things in the old sandbox have moved onto other places.
If I sent a PR and it was whisked away to Geronimo, my immediate issue would be that I don't have commit access there, so I'm then restricted to sending in PRs. Jon On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 10:04 AM, Andy Gumbrecht <agumbre...@tomitribe.com> wrote: > I don't see TomEE as the center of the world, but somewhere where people > should be free to work without constantly being told it's not OK to do so. > > > > On 19/03/18 10:45, Mark Struberg wrote: > >> @Anydy and @David >> Let's face it TomEE is mostly an aggregator. A great one, I really love >> it - but still. >> For example: apart from verifying and excluding all the broken TCKs I >> had probably 30 committs for TomEE8 which are really due to upgrades for >> EE8. Most of them have been CDI-2.0 adoptions and adopting to Tomcat >> behaviour changes. >> But apart from that Romain I had about 4000 commits in all the other >> projects, all for TomEE8. And there are many more people and projects >> involved which just get consumed by TomEE: >> * Tomcat* OpenWebBeans* MyFaces >> * Johnzon* OpenJPA* BVal* log4j* commons* BatchEE >> * various geronimo libs like * xbean, * geronimo-jta, * >> geronimo-javamail, tons of * geronimo-specs >> Folks, you have to stop thinking as TomEE as being the center of the >> world. I love TomEE and it's a great aggregator and a great community. >> But building TomEE is literally just the tip of the iceberg. All the work >> on the parts under the water - which is the vast majority - is done FOR >> TomEE but *not* AT TomEE!So don't fight those communities but embrace them. >> >> This is not a one way street. >> We (TomEE) should be really much more active in pointing that out TomEE >> contributors are perfectly welcome to tinker around in all the downstream >> projects as well. And the other way around. >> We need EACH OTHER! TomEE as kind of end-user projects which adds a huge >> adoption factor. And of course the components underneath as a rock solid >> base. >> >> LieGrue,strub >> >> >> On Monday, 19 March 2018, 09:37:36 CET, Andy Gumbrecht < >> agumbre...@tomitribe.com> wrote: >> I think that if anyone feels like contributing to TomEE then we should >> allow and encourage that as soon as possible. The politics of where >> things should 'eventually' reside is a huge distraction and just serves >> to block any progress at the moment - The enthusiasm dies quickly after >> a week of back and forth. The first choice for anything should be TomEE, >> as that is the community we serve. The first response should be thank >> you, and we should accept the help offered. Then those that want to >> worry about extraction and reuse should feel free to go ahead and do >> that if they feel strongly enough about it. It should not be the >> priority for TomEE. >> >> The goal should be to get TomEE on the MP board as soon as possible. If >> that initially means TomEE 8, Java 8, and accepting a few PRs then we >> should press ahead with that now. Anything that might need back-porting >> can be addressed later. >> >> Andy. >> >> >> On 19/03/18 01:02, David Blevins wrote: >> >>> On Mar 18, 2018, at 2:38 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Are you against/-1ing g-jwt-auth? >>>> >>> I wouldn't do that, but it's also clear to me the discussion in this >>> thread can be significantly clearer. Objections were made that weren't >>> resolved. The discussion started as what do "we" do with we meaning TomEE >>> and Geronimo. At some point in the middle it was stated Geronimo has >>> already made a decision. I also have the feeling people may have opinions >>> that are in-between a full TomEE vs Geronimo decision, such as wanting to >>> put work into inching closer to get a better view before deciding. >>> >>> I think all these things are fine, but we need some healthy votes so >>> people can move forward with clear support. >>> >>> >>> -David >>> >>> >>> > -- > Andy Gumbrecht > https://twitter.com/AndyGeeDe > http://www.tomitribe.com > https://www.tomitribe.io > > > Ubique > >
