> On Jul 23, 2017, at 7:44 AM, Sam Ruby <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 8:24 AM, Craig Russell <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi Sam,
>> 
>> I see this code [1] in adjournment where the function launch_email_client is 
>> defined.
>> 
>> What I do not see is any code that calls it.
> 
> That code was added on the 13th:
> 
> https://github.com/apache/whimsy/commit/3e5639264f69df53cb043d030cfa6b7e81fc8325
> 
> And then removed a week ago, and replaced with logic on the server:
> 
> https://github.com/apache/whimsy/commit/bb9f23f9661ae2a1e15ec1578575d6fbb974f170

I missed the part about moving all of the code from whimsy-agenda to whimsy. I 
was looking in whimsy-agenda and it seemed to be live but I guess not so much. 
I wonder why the Congratulations code is in whimsy-agenda at all.
> 
>> I also could not find how setting the variable window.location with the 
>> string containing the email message will do anything.
> 
> That's a browser feature. See, for example:
> 
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21461589/javascript-mailto-using-window-open

That will take some time to digest.
> 
> Launching the email from the client will require a separate action on
> your part, but will give you the ability to tailor the email.
> 
> Launching the email from the server allows greater control over
> setting such things as reply-to addresses.
> 
> In this case, I would think sending it from the server is better?

Since there is nothing that needs to be tailored, I agree sending it from the 
server is better. 

Thanks,

Craig

> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Craig
> 
> - Sam Ruby
> 
>> [1]   # launch email client, pre-filling the destination, subject, and body
>>  def launch_email_client()
>>    people = []
>>    @people.each do |person|
>>      people << "#{person.name} <#{person.email}>" if @checked[person.id]
>>    end
>>    destination = "mailto:#{people.join(',')}[email protected]"
>> 
>>    subject = "Congratulations on your new role at Apache"
>>    body = "Dear new PMC chairs,\n\nCongratulations on your new role at " +
>>    "Apache. I've changed your LDAP privileges to reflect your new " +
>>    "status.\n\nPlease read this and update the foundation records:\n" +
>>    
>> "https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/foundation/officers/advice-for-new-pmc-chairs.txt";
>>  +
>>    "\n\nWarm regards,\n\n#{Server.username}"
>> 
>>    window.location = destination +
>>      "&subject=#{encodeURIComponent(subject)}" +
>>      "&body=#{encodeURIComponent(body)}"
>>  end
>> 
>>> On Jul 23, 2017, at 7:01 AM, Sam Ruby <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Craig Russell <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Ok, I give up.
>>>> 
>>>> I found a function definition that creates an email message in a couple of 
>>>> places but I cannot find how it works.
>>>> 
>>>> The function launch_email_client composes a message but I don't see how 
>>>> the message is sent.
>>>> 
>>>> Perhaps the Congratulations message is just a stub and never activated?
>>> 
>>> Most mail is constructed and sent on the server.  In a few cases, mail
>>> is constructed and sent on the client.  In the latter case, a mailto:
>>> URL is constructed, the browser is made to open that link, and that
>>> opens your mail client where you can tailor the message and send it
>>> yourself.
>>> 
>>> The rest of the cases uses the mail gem:
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/mikel/mail
>>> http://www.rubydoc.info/github/mikel/mail/Mail
>>> 
>>> This mail is sent using the deliver! method.
>>> 
>>> Configuring mail is done using ~/.whimsy:
>>> https://github.com/apache/whimsy/blob/master/MACOSX.md#configure-sending-of-mail
>>> 
>>> Loading this configuration is done by
>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/docs/api/ASF/Mail.html#method-c-configure
>>> 
>>> A complete, standalone, example can be found here:
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/apache/whimsy/blob/master/tools/testmail.rb
>>> 
>>>> Craig
>>> 
>>> - Sam Ruby
>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 21, 2017, at 5:57 PM, Craig Russell <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think I would be happy if only podling graduations were sent an email.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Why? Direct-to-TLP is not as interesting, as this is mostly a 
>>>>> communications exercise anyway. It's more likely that dev@podling has 
>>>>> more folks who are not insiders.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Let me give this patch a try. I'll base it on the existing 
>>>>> congratulations on your new role.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Craig
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 21, 2017, at 4:08 PM, Sam Ruby <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If it was a podling, sure:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/docs/api/ASF/Podling.html#method-i-dev_mail_list
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If it wasn't a podling previously, then perhaps not.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - Sam Ruby
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 4:58 PM, Craig Russell <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> subject: Congratulations to the new Apache project %project%
>>>>>>> to: %dev-list%
>>>>>>> reply-to: %dev-list%
>>>>>>> cc: board
>>>>>>> from: %secretary%
>>>>>>> body: At this month's Apache Board meeting, the board voted to approve 
>>>>>>> %project%
>>>>>>> as a new Top Level Project with %chair% as PMC Chair.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> %secretary%
>>>>>>> Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I think we already know what %project% and %chair% are. But can we 
>>>>>>> calculate %dev-list%?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Craig
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jul 21, 2017, at 8:15 AM, Sam Ruby <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Craig Russell <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Adjournment again.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Change PMC chair resolutions result in sending Congratulations 
>>>>>>>>> message.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Would it be possible to change the email:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> to: new-chair1, new-chair2, ... new-chair3
>>>>>>>>> cc: board, pmc1, pmc2, ... pmc3
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> For existing pmcs with a new chair, this acknowledges the new chair.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> For graduating pmcs, this acknowledges their graduation.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Should we have a different message for the two cases?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Should we have a congratulations on graduating from the incubator?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Two complicating factors, both addressable with if checks on the
>>>>>>>> server and possibly new messages:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 1) currently, the list is limited to, and the message focuses on, new
>>>>>>>> PMC chairs, i.e., people who are now chairs but previously were not
>>>>>>>> chairs of any other committee.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 2) not all new committees are graduated podlings.  Sometimes they form
>>>>>>>> via mitosis from an existing PMC.  Other times the are simply new.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Craig
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Craig L Russell
>>>>>>>>> Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
>>>>>>>>> [email protected] http://db.apache.org/jdo
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> - Sam Ruby
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Craig L Russell
>>>>>>> Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
>>>>>>> [email protected] http://db.apache.org/jdo
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Craig L Russell
>>>>> Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
>>>>> [email protected] http://db.apache.org/jdo
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Craig L Russell
>>>> Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
>>>> [email protected] http://db.apache.org/jdo
>>>> 
>> 
>> Craig L Russell
>> Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
>> [email protected] http://db.apache.org/jdo
>> 

Craig L Russell
Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
[email protected] http://db.apache.org/jdo

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