Hi Patrick and Enrico,

Not sure if you get a chance to see the design. Any comments or inputs?

Also hope people who have already worked in the areas can chime in, so we
can have a solution working for the community.

Thanks,

Li

On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 9:31 PM Li Wang <li4w...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Sorry it took a while to get back on this. Thanks Patrick for the
> suggestion.
>
> Here is the design doc on google doc. Anyone with the link should be able
> to comment on it. Looking forward to more comments and discussions.
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UHf07ZnPi_Kyos7-DRnANmkuhv1BILNGJanZkBv12WA/edit?usp=sharing
>
> Best,
>
> Li
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 5:52 PM Li Wang <li4w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Great suggestion, Patrck. I will create an online design doc to
>> facilitate discussions and capture feedback.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Li
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 8:30 AM Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 9:23 PM Li Wang <li4w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Thanks for the inputs, Patrick. They are very valuable.
>>> >
>>> > I have similar thoughts on some of them as I worked on the feature. I
>>> will
>>> > respond to them in the JIRA ticket.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> sg. I noticed later on that the PR on gh has links to other reference
>>> material, etc... Perhaps you can update the JIRA to "link" to that
>>> material? EOD whatever material content is there, much of it should be
>>> added to the release docs. That said, having insight on eg a design
>>> doc/design decisions is also helpful for folks that want to dig deeper
>>> both
>>> during, and after, the feature lands. The JIRA ticket (epic?) is
>>> typically
>>> our central source for this, which is why I'm asking. I've found that
>>> having the design doc be a "living doc" (eg google docs during the
>>> initial
>>> stages of development) is also helpful wrt capturing feedback. I can do
>>> it
>>> through jira/email but it's hard to capture/reference context. This is a
>>> big feature set, otw I wouldn't mention. :-)
>>>
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>>
>>> > Bests,
>>> >
>>> > Li
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 11:08 AM Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > I think this could be a useful feature for folks. However it
>>> immediately
>>> > > raises a number of concerns if we want to ship it as a "mainline"
>>> > feature,
>>> > > I briefly started capturing here:
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ZOOKEEPER-4570?focusedCommentId=17565127&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-17565127
>>> > >
>>> > > Patrick
>>> > >
>>> > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 10:48 AM Li Wang <li4w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > Thanks Enrico for the feedback. This is awesome! Looking forward to
>>> > more
>>> > > > comments and discussions, so we can have a solution from and for
>>> > > > the community.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Best,
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Li
>>> > > > On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 10:46 PM Enrico Olivelli <
>>> eolive...@gmail.com>
>>> > > > wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > Li,
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Il Lun 11 Lug 2022, 06:58 Li Wang <li4w...@gmail.com> ha
>>> scritto:
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > > Hello,
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > We are working on on-demand backup and restore with streaming
>>> > > > capability,
>>> > > > > > so different databases such as zookeeper and etcd can be
>>> backed up
>>> > > and
>>> > > > > > restored via a generic external management platform.  We would
>>> like
>>> > > to
>>> > > > > > contribute it to the community to benefit more users.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > This is great.
>>> > > > > I am following your work.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > I hope that people who already worked on similar proposals can
>>> chime
>>> > > in,
>>> > > > > this way we can make it a community work
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Thanks
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Enrico
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > > I noticed that some great work has been done in the backup and
>>> > > restore
>>> > > > > > area, specifically the following open PRs are very interesting.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > 1. ZOOKEEPER-3499:Add a complete backup mechanism for zookeeper
>>> > > > > > internal(admin server way) #1044  (
>>> > > > > > https://github.com/apache/zookeeper/pull/1044)
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > 2.  Add backup and restore with timetable #1883 (
>>> > > > > > https://github.com/apache/zookeeper/pull/1883)
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Instead of building another variant solution, I would like to
>>> see
>>> > if
>>> > > we
>>> > > > > can
>>> > > > > > work together, combine different solutions and provide a
>>> generic
>>> > one
>>> > > > that
>>> > > > > > supports different use cases.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > To facilitate the discussion, I opened the following two JIRA
>>> > tickets
>>> > > > for
>>> > > > > > our use case. I  would appreciate it if you could provide
>>> inputs or
>>> > > > > > comments.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ZOOKEEPER-4570
>>> > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ZOOKEEPER-4571
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Best,
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Li
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>

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