On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 11:44 AM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
<domi...@greysector.net> wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, 03 October 2018 at 08:38, Florian Weimer wrote:
> > * Iñaki Ucar:
> >
> > > IMO, it would be easier for everybody if the mailing list could
> > > automatically strip out the HTML part. Some projects do this (e.g.,
> > > R).
> >
> > In many cases, the quoting in the text/html part is easier to read (it's
> > clearer who wrote what) than in the text/plain part.
>
> For me it's actually the other way around, because HTML part gets
> processed by lynx. Quoting is marked by identation, which is not
> automatically highlighted by VIM, while the > prefix in the text/plain
> part is.
>
> But that's beside the point. My point was about excessive and
> unnecessary bandwith usage (the same information gets sent twice).

I respect this issue, but I wonder if it this is a situation where we
are trying to solve a problem for a small number of people by
potential inconveniencing or excluding a lot of people.

While Internet plans vary, I wonder how many pay per bit?  In
September, if you assume every message sent to devel list was plain
text and you further assume that the html version was 1.25 times
longer then the total traffic for the month would have been about 10.6
MB.  While this is 2.25 more bits than were actually sent (based on
disk size), is it really a problem we should invest effort in fixing?

We know that more and more people are using mailers which can
accidentally or purposefully send HTML mail.  We know that we want to
attract people, and not create unneeded barriers to entry.  Saying
that you have to change your email client to participate in Fedora is
a huge disincentive.  We are effectively putting a sign on the door
saying "go away."

I suggest that if we think this is a serious issue and that we want to
get the maximum possible help to those who are forced to pay by the
bit that we stop sending them mail they don't need all together.  Lets
move this mailing list (and others) to discussion.fedoraproject.org.
There the person will be given the ability to select exactly which
subjects they see and allow to be transmitted down the wire.

regards,

bex

>
> Regards,
> Dominik
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