On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 8:42 AM Stephen John Smoogen <smo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 03:39, Felix Schwarz <fschw...@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Am 01.10.19 um 16:55 schrieb Stephen John Smoogen:
> > > Then there are problems with budgets and figuring out what exactly it
> > > would cost. We fall outside of many of the 'caveats' that would allow
> > > us to get free.
> >
> > IIRC at the time when Fedora evaluated its options the open source version 
> > of
> > Gitlab was more limited than today. AFAIK Debian + FreeDesktop developers
> > worked with Gitlab Inc. and finally succeeded in getting necessary features
> > included in the open source version.
> >
> > If the evaluation was done today and there were no Pagure I suspect Fedora
> > would use gitlab as well.
> >
> > (I'm also wondering if Fedora writes too much custom infrastructure when 
> > there
> > are "open core" offerings which might provide more features - e.g. Gitlab
> > instead of Pagure, sentry instead of abrt. But I'm aware of limited 
> > ressources
> > and I trust my fellow Fedorians with their judgement.)
> >
> One of the goals many early Fedora participants had was that Fedora
> was to be an incubator for open source software which isn't available
> as FLOSS elsewhere. The issue though is that software does not spring
> up instantly from the head of Zeus fully formed. It takes years and a
> lot of effort. Other things can overtake what you are working on and
> just be so much larger and bigger than what is now. It can also be
> that what communities want changes faster than it takes for the
> software to be written.

For those that might have forgotten, Ansible is a fantastic success
story from those principles (It started as a fedorahosted project
called func). It took a while for it to take off, but it did.

真実はいつも一つ!/ Always, there's only one truth!
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