On Fri, May 8, 2026 at 8:42 AM Fabio Valentini <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Fri, May 8, 2026 at 2:38 PM Gary Buhrmaster > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Fri, May 8, 2026 at 9:07 AM Richard W.M. Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, May 07, 2026 at 10:43:37AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > > > whereas it's common for builds to fail only on s390x > > > > due to endianness issues. > > > > > > This is a feature, not a bug. > > > > Not just a feature, an advantage. With the > > elimination of BE Power as a supported > > architecture, the s/390 BE architecture > > helps developers identify errors due to > > LE monoculture thinking. > > Well, mostly, it just makes things blow up in packagers faces only on s390x. > Most upstream developers I reported endianness bugs to were happy to > take patches but almost always said something to the effect of "this > is an obscure CPU architecture that I cannot test or even have access > to, patches welcome but meh" >
We could, of course, choose to bring back support for big endian PowerPC if we wanted to have an "easier" platform for endianness. All POWER systems are bi-endian and IBM actively supports both endian modes. Ironically, I think we could actually bootstrap it from the ppc64le Fedora variant. But yes, the fact that we've lacked access to test machines for s390x for several years now is a big bummer. I think this is probably one of those lines in the sand for me: if packager machines cannot be provided, then the architecture is a candidate for removal from Fedora. It's just silly to expect people to support architectures with zero access to the platform. Likewise, I would refuse to consider RISC-V as a practical matter until at least two conditions are true: * They are building rawhide and tracking it in a reasonable timeframe * Packager machines are available These are two non-negotiable points for a successful architecture in Fedora. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected] Do not reply to spam, report it: https://forge.fedoraproject.org/infra/tickets/issues/new
