On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 06:03:29PM -0800, Tracy R Reed wrote: > On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 12:45:25AM +0000, Toad spake thusly: > > That is not a solution. Frost works, somebody would reimplement it, we > > have no enforcement capability against them, and if frost died now > > somebody would reintroduce it post 1.0 and mess up a network adapted to > > no Frost. We need to make Freenet work WITH Frost. > > Indeed, someone would reimplement it. If we actually did want to do it we > would kill KSK's and frost would die as a result. We already tell people > KSK's are insecure and they hurt the network etc. They really don't have a > whole lot going for them. Although I agree we do need frost or something > that provides the same sort of functionality
Wouldn't work. You can implement KSKs using SSKs - that what we do! > > > > Freenet is still has a long way to go to get away from alchemy. It's as if > > > there is no scientific process. The above is a good example. Regarding the > > > major routing bugs that were found: Wouldn't some basic sanity checking > > > have caught those? I suggested breaking out some of the methods in the > > > routing table and providing some inputs and checking that sane outputs > > > were produced and he seemed to scoff. > > > > Not necessarily, how do you test routing? > > The logic was backwards in the first major NGR bug. Wouldn't this have > been revealed by plugging some values into the function/method in question > and observing the results? > > > > Reskill made a good point also: The 692 network DID perform better than > > > the unstable network when the unstable network had just as few nodes. We > > > found this out when unstable forked into its own network. Looks like the > > > theory that any build would work well with so few nodes was incorrect too. > > > > That was because of the anti-NGR bug. > > Indeed. But it doesn't change the fact that he was right. :) He formed the > 692 network precisely because of these sort of bugs. Fortunately 692 seems > to have gone away and the main freenet network is showing signs of > improvement except from routing. > > -- > Tracy Reed > http://copilotconsulting.com -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so.
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