On Saturday 13 June 2009 20:17:23 you wrote: > On Saturday 13 June 2009 20:18:50 you wrote: > > Probably worth moving forward on this? Submenus are important, we have a > > lot of content and it's not well organised. And arguably the theme is > > better, and arguably even if it isn't better it's a change, and is no > > worse... > > > > On Monday 01 June 2009 01:24:24 Clément wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > > > about three weeks ago I had a HCI webproject to do. > > > The subject was : improve an existant website (well, I'm not 100% sure > > > that it was the subject, but that what we've done) > > > > > > I convinced the three other people who worked with me to work on the > > > freenet website. It was a small project though (3 hours with a teacher in > > > the room, + 3 hours max of personal time), so we didn't go far. > > > > > > But maybe some of what we've done could be usefull for the project. > > > > > > Here is the copy/paste of what we've done : > > > > I like the submenus. I think that is fairly universal. New layout is fine. > > I am not convinced about the way the site has been split up however. More > > comment below... > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >------------------------- Objective of the new website: > > > - To improve the existing navigation controls of freenetproject.org > > > - To improve it's structural presentation of information on home page > > > > > > > > > Aim of the web-site: > > > - to present the software product and provide support > > > - documentation and tools to users and developers to allow them to use > > > and contribute to the software. > > > > > > Problems: > > > The problems of current website http://freenetproject.org : > > > - irrelevant information for homepage: mainly financial status, we don't > > > know what freenet is > > > - too many items in left navigation menu and not really well structured > > > - documentation section where subsections do not have direct hyperlinks - > > > its confusing > > > > > > Solutions we proposed: > > > - simpler horizontal navigation bar with restructured tree > > > - new menu tree proposition: > > > > > > Home -- what is freenet a bit modified page > > > > This page looks good IMHO. > > > > > About freenet: > > > what is freenet > > > philosophy > > > contributors > > > > > > Downloads: > > > freenet > > > tools > > > > Tools are unofficial and unsupported. Maybe download should be under home? > > > > > Contribute: > > > papers -- research and stuff > > > developer > > > > I'm not convinced papers belong under Contribute. > > > > > Donations > > > donate > > > sponsors > > > > Ok. But shouldn't both be under Contribute? > > > > > Support & feedback > > > help --documentation and stuff > > > faq --move out from help section > > > mailing lists > > > suggestions > > > > What about the wiki? Shouldn't it be on the same level as the uservoice > > tracker? > > > > How about: > > > > Home > > - Home > > - What is Freenet? > > - Download Freenet > > > Download Freenet should definitely be a top link, it gives it more > visibility. > The all point of the site is to make the user download freenet, so we should > make it clear, on all pages, where to download it > Home should link to the homepage and be a simple menu : that's how it is on > all sites afaik, and consistency with "standards" is very important. > We could move the What is Freenet? link under the About menu, since meanings > are close, so the user will instinctively search under the about menu, and we > already said to the user what freenet was. The What is Freenet? section is > here if he wants more details. Also, there already is a second level link on > the homepage pointing to the what is freenet page (Learn more). > So it would be : > Home > Download > About > -What is Freenet? > -... > > About: > > - Philosophy > > - Papers > > - People > > > Agreed. With the What is Freenet submenu added. > > Contribute: > > - Developer page > > - Donate > > - Sponsors > > > I think people see "contribute" as contribute to the project by involving > some > time in it. Well, that's how I hear it. Besides that, it doesn't give the > donation links the visibility it may need. > So : > Donate > -Donate > -Sponsors > Contribute > > Help: > > - Docs > > - FAQ > > - Mailing lists > > - Suggestions > > - Wiki > > > > Too many links? Depends on the theme I guess... > > > In fact menus should have 5 +/-2 submenus, so it's fine. The CSS is still > very > basic, and maybe not well done for submenus, so maybe right now it wouldn't > fit, but it's not really difficult to change that. > > > Actually, I'm not convinced we want to keep the documentation pages: > > - Install only applies to the java installer, needs some typo fixes and a > > new final screenshot, and some guidance on the post-install wizard. - > > Connect: needs updating but is basically acceptable. > > - Content: dunno, isn't this more About? but i'm not sure we want to move > > it there... - Understand: maybe keep > > - Freemail: probably keep, is sort of official > > - Frost: dunno, we don't ship it, and we don't review it, but at the moment > > we recommend it ... - jSite: keep > > - Thaw: see Frost > > - FAQ: should be at a higher level > > - Wiki: should be at a higher level > If we get rid of the documentation pages, we could rename the wiki link in > docs. We probably also want to change the homepage of the wiki, since right > now it's a bit confusing (lot and lot of links).
I have refactored the website and fixed some bugs in the php. I intend to keep the php, but generate it to HTML statically when uploading from git. Currently we have submenus similar to the above, we have the new banner (at hard left), and we have the old menu, still down the left hand side. What did you want to put in Contribute? Currently I have a Developer submenu. Is it a good idea to have a home menu item? Given the logo links to it anyway? The next thing is to deploy the horizontal menu. Is the pixel-based positioning essential? Can we put the submenu after, or within, the selected menu item, when there is a submenu? E.g. can we position it relative to the parent element, and just go down a bit and left a bit?
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