On Jul 25, 2008, at 10:15 AM, Anca Paula Luca wrote:

>
>
> Vincent Massol wrote:
>> On Jul 24, 2008, at 10:49 PM, Guillaume Lerouge wrote:
>>
>>> Cool idea.
>>>
>>>>>>> I'm +1 to try it somewhere on xwiki.org domain. Where do you
>>>>>>>> suggest?
>>>>>>> I'm +1 for someplace around watch.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ 
>>>>>>> Watch/.
>>>>>> +1 for this, or for watch.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/WatchXWiki/ to
>>>>>> have an
>>>>>> explicit watch topic.
>>> What about http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/ExternalNews
>>> then ?
>>
>> Is there really only one page for Watch? Where does it put the
>> articles, etc? I think you need a new space.
>
> Yes, you need a space. I didn't even notice that Guillaume proposed  
> a page name,
> I read it as http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ExternalNews/ .
>
>>
>> I'd be fine with http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ExternalNews/WebHome
>>  but I think it's better to have a top level domain name for several
>> reasons:
>> * better visibility
>> * easier to go to rather than having to go xwiki.org and click on a  
>> link
>> * easier for upgrades (XE on xwiki.org and watch are separate)
>
> this makes me +1 for a separate wiki. I would have had it in the  
> watch wiki on
> xwiki.org but, since the goal is to have the latest version of watch  
> running
> there, we need to make sure it is freely upgradable (which can  
> require upgrading
> the underlying XE).
>
> Otherwise, I still think it should be on watch.xwiki.org rather than  
> xwiki.org
> for consistency reasons, since it would be a demo of watch -- that  
> is the main
> purpose as I see it, allowing people to click around and have a  
> quick look
> without having to download, install, etc.

Then we still have a disagreement :)

Right now (and I'd like to keep it this way) all wikis on the  
xwiki.org domain are for *real*. They are not test platforms for  
people to see how xwiki works and have some fun trying it. They have  
real usages (documentation of the xwiki software).
We have one exception: this is playground.xwiki.org which is there for  
people to test and play around.

Thus my proposal is:

1) have a new wiki (news.xwiki.org, same as we have jira.xwiki.org,  
svn.xwiki.org and maven.xwiki.org) which will be our news "portal".   
Note: It will also listen to the xwiki.org Blog feed.
2) have a Watch space in playground.xwiki.org for people to try out  
Watch.

But I'm -1 to have a watch playground on watch.xwiki.org since I don't  
want to blur the lines and I want to make it very clear that demo/ 
testing is on playground.xwiki.org and the rest is for real.

WDYT?

Thanks
-Vincent

>>> With
>>> a link at the top of the current news page and / or in the left
>>> panel ?
>>
>> Yes we'll need that (in the right panel not left ;)).
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
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