Vincent Massol wrote: > On Jul 25, 2008, at 10:56 AM, Anca Paula Luca wrote: > >> >> Vincent Massol wrote: >>> On Jul 25, 2008, at 10:15 AM, Anca Paula Luca wrote: >>> >>>> Vincent Massol wrote: >>>>> I'd be fine with http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ExternalNews/WebHome >>>>> but I think it's better to have a top level domain name for several >>>>> reasons: >>>>> * better visibility >>>>> * easier to go to rather than having to go xwiki.org and click on a >>>>> link >>>>> * easier for upgrades (XE on xwiki.org and watch are separate) >>>> this makes me +1 for a separate wiki. I would have had it in the >>>> watch wiki on >>>> xwiki.org but, since the goal is to have the latest version of watch >>>> running >>>> there, we need to make sure it is freely upgradable (which can >>>> require upgrading >>>> the underlying XE). >>>> >>>> Otherwise, I still think it should be on watch.xwiki.org rather than >>>> xwiki.org >>>> for consistency reasons, since it would be a demo of watch -- that >>>> is the main >>>> purpose as I see it, allowing people to click around and have a >>>> quick look >>>> without having to download, install, etc. >>> Then we still have a disagreement :) >>> >>> Right now (and I'd like to keep it this way) all wikis on the >>> xwiki.org domain are for *real*. They are not test platforms for >>> people to see how xwiki works and have some fun trying it. They have >>> real usages (documentation of the xwiki software). >>> We have one exception: this is playground.xwiki.org which is there >>> for >>> people to test and play around. >>> >>> Thus my proposal is: >>> >>> 1) have a new wiki (news.xwiki.org, same as we have jira.xwiki.org, >>> svn.xwiki.org and maven.xwiki.org) which will be our news "portal". >>> Note: It will also listen to the xwiki.org Blog feed. >>> 2) have a Watch space in playground.xwiki.org for people to try out >>> Watch. >> it makes a lot of sense, so: >> +0 for 1: it would be nice to have it, it would be nice to have it >> working >> properly (having people *really* collaboratively watching) but that >> is not the >> purpose I started this thread for. > > I think we would learn a lot from it, eating our own dog food at the > community level. > >> +1 for 2, since this one is :). But now we're back one mail to the >> upgrade >> problem: I would like to have always the last version of watch >> running in the >> playground, which could require platform / XE upgrades, from time to >> time, since >> the plugins & modules that watch is using don't really have their >> own lifecycle, >> yet. > > We need to talk to Raff. I think right now playground is a subwiki on > the xwiki.org farm. > > Right now the xwiki.org is upgraded to the latest version of XE > whenever it's released (within 1 or 2 weeks usually) so I don't see a > problem. When we do this upgrade we can upgrade watch too. And if the > watch releases comes later we upgrade watch only. Unless final watch > releases use non final XE releases. Is that the case?
no, it is not. But XWatch milestones do use XE milestones and, since Watch release cycles are pretty long for the moment, it would be interesting to have all milestones. Do we use milestones on xwiki.org? Happy coding, Anca > > We can also decide that playground has always the latest release but > this means potentially non stable releases and I'm not sure it's a > good idea since users testing xwiki might find it non stable and > decide not to use xwiki because of this... > >> And one more thing, I'm not very up to date with how it works, but >> isn't the >> playground cleaned daily? > > Yes and that's the good thing! ;) Watch would be cleaned daily too. We > just need to populate it with a few predefined items and save that DB > for the restore. > > Thanks > -Vincent > >>> But I'm -1 to have a watch playground on watch.xwiki.org since I >>> don't >>> want to blur the lines and I want to make it very clear that demo/ >>> testing is on playground.xwiki.org and the rest is for real. >>> >>> WDYT? >>> >>> Thanks >>> -Vincent >>> >>>>> Yes we'll need that (in the right panel not left ;)). >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> -Vincent > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
