Vincent Massol wrote:
> On Jul 25, 2008, at 10:15 AM, Anca Paula Luca wrote:
> 
>>
>> Vincent Massol wrote:
>>> I'd be fine with http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ExternalNews/WebHome
>>>  but I think it's better to have a top level domain name for several
>>> reasons:
>>> * better visibility
>>> * easier to go to rather than having to go xwiki.org and click on a  
>>> link
>>> * easier for upgrades (XE on xwiki.org and watch are separate)
>> this makes me +1 for a separate wiki. I would have had it in the  
>> watch wiki on
>> xwiki.org but, since the goal is to have the latest version of watch  
>> running
>> there, we need to make sure it is freely upgradable (which can  
>> require upgrading
>> the underlying XE).
>>
>> Otherwise, I still think it should be on watch.xwiki.org rather than  
>> xwiki.org
>> for consistency reasons, since it would be a demo of watch -- that  
>> is the main
>> purpose as I see it, allowing people to click around and have a  
>> quick look
>> without having to download, install, etc.
> 
> Then we still have a disagreement :)
> 
> Right now (and I'd like to keep it this way) all wikis on the  
> xwiki.org domain are for *real*. They are not test platforms for  
> people to see how xwiki works and have some fun trying it. They have  
> real usages (documentation of the xwiki software).
> We have one exception: this is playground.xwiki.org which is there for  
> people to test and play around.
> 
> Thus my proposal is:
> 
> 1) have a new wiki (news.xwiki.org, same as we have jira.xwiki.org,  
> svn.xwiki.org and maven.xwiki.org) which will be our news "portal".   
> Note: It will also listen to the xwiki.org Blog feed.
> 2) have a Watch space in playground.xwiki.org for people to try out  
> Watch.

it makes a lot of sense, so:
+0 for 1: it would be nice to have it, it would be nice to have it working 
properly (having people *really* collaboratively watching) but that is not the 
purpose I started this thread for.
+1 for 2, since this one is :). But now we're back one mail to the upgrade 
problem: I would like to have always the last version of watch running in the 
playground, which could require platform / XE upgrades, from time to time, 
since 
the plugins & modules that watch is using don't really have their own 
lifecycle, 
yet.
And one more thing, I'm not very up to date with how it works, but isn't the 
playground cleaned daily?

Happy coding,
Anca

> 
> But I'm -1 to have a watch playground on watch.xwiki.org since I don't  
> want to blur the lines and I want to make it very clear that demo/ 
> testing is on playground.xwiki.org and the rest is for real.
> 
> WDYT?
> 
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
>>> Yes we'll need that (in the right panel not left ;)).
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> -Vincent
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