> > On Jul 25, 2008, at 11:32 AM, Anca Paula Luca wrote: > >> >> >> Vincent Massol wrote: >>> On Jul 25, 2008, at 10:56 AM, Anca Paula Luca wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Vincent Massol wrote: >>>>> On Jul 25, 2008, at 10:15 AM, Anca Paula Luca wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Vincent Massol wrote: >>>>>>> I'd be fine with >>>>>>> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ExternalNews/WebHome >>>>>>> but I think it's better to have a top level domain name for >>>>>>> several >>>>>>> reasons: >>>>>>> * better visibility >>>>>>> * easier to go to rather than having to go xwiki.org and click >>>>>>> on a >>>>>>> link >>>>>>> * easier for upgrades (XE on xwiki.org and watch are separate) >>>>>> this makes me +1 for a separate wiki. I would have had it in the >>>>>> watch wiki on >>>>>> xwiki.org but, since the goal is to have the latest version of >>>>>> watch >>>>>> running >>>>>> there, we need to make sure it is freely upgradable (which can >>>>>> require upgrading >>>>>> the underlying XE). >>>>>> >>>>>> Otherwise, I still think it should be on watch.xwiki.org rather >>>>>> than >>>>>> xwiki.org >>>>>> for consistency reasons, since it would be a demo of watch -- that >>>>>> is the main >>>>>> purpose as I see it, allowing people to click around and have a >>>>>> quick look >>>>>> without having to download, install, etc. >>>>> Then we still have a disagreement :) >>>>> >>>>> Right now (and I'd like to keep it this way) all wikis on the >>>>> xwiki.org domain are for *real*. They are not test platforms for >>>>> people to see how xwiki works and have some fun trying it. They >>>>> have >>>>> real usages (documentation of the xwiki software). >>>>> We have one exception: this is playground.xwiki.org which is there >>>>> for >>>>> people to test and play around. >>>>> >>>>> Thus my proposal is: >>>>> >>>>> 1) have a new wiki (news.xwiki.org, same as we have jira.xwiki.org, >>>>> svn.xwiki.org and maven.xwiki.org) which will be our news "portal". >>>>> Note: It will also listen to the xwiki.org Blog feed. >>>>> 2) have a Watch space in playground.xwiki.org for people to try out >>>>> Watch. >>>> it makes a lot of sense, so: >>>> +0 for 1: it would be nice to have it, it would be nice to have it >>>> working >>>> properly (having people *really* collaboratively watching) but that >>>> is not the >>>> purpose I started this thread for. >>> >>> I think we would learn a lot from it, eating our own dog food at the >>> community level. >>> >>>> +1 for 2, since this one is :). But now we're back one mail to the >>>> upgrade >>>> problem: I would like to have always the last version of watch >>>> running in the >>>> playground, which could require platform / XE upgrades, from time to >>>> time, since >>>> the plugins & modules that watch is using don't really have their >>>> own lifecycle, >>>> yet. >>> >>> We need to talk to Raff. I think right now playground is a subwiki on >>> the xwiki.org farm. >>> >>> Right now the xwiki.org is upgraded to the latest version of XE >>> whenever it's released (within 1 or 2 weeks usually) so I don't see a >>> problem. When we do this upgrade we can upgrade watch too. And if the >>> watch releases comes later we upgrade watch only. Unless final watch >>> releases use non final XE releases. Is that the case? >> >> no, it is not. >> But XWatch milestones do use XE milestones and, since Watch release >> cycles are >> pretty long for the moment, it would be interesting to have all >> milestones. >> Do we use milestones on xwiki.org? > > No. XWiki.org must be stable.
Shouldn't the watch instance (news.xwiki.org or the name we will find for it) be hosted on a different server anyway ? At least to begin with, I think it would be safer not to take the risk having xwiki.org stability and performances be affected by the introduction of the watch instance. This would allow too to have a separate upgrade cycle, and possibly upgrade to milestones as well. For the name, I have a (little) problem with news.xwiki.org : it kind of implies it is news from xwiki (like a blog feed), and we should/will watch on a wider spectrum than that IMO. But I cannot figure out a better name :p I though about wikinews.xwiki.org, wikiwatch.xwiki.org, monitoring.xwiki.org but it does not sound as good as news.xwiki.org... Regards, Jerome. > > I'd suggest you make smaller release cycles :) That can only be good! > > Thanks > -Vincent > > [snip] > > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
