On Jul 25, 2008, at 11:32 AM, Anca Paula Luca wrote: > > > Vincent Massol wrote: >> On Jul 25, 2008, at 10:56 AM, Anca Paula Luca wrote: >> >>> >>> Vincent Massol wrote: >>>> On Jul 25, 2008, at 10:15 AM, Anca Paula Luca wrote: >>>> >>>>> Vincent Massol wrote: >>>>>> I'd be fine with http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ExternalNews/WebHome >>>>>> but I think it's better to have a top level domain name for >>>>>> several >>>>>> reasons: >>>>>> * better visibility >>>>>> * easier to go to rather than having to go xwiki.org and click >>>>>> on a >>>>>> link >>>>>> * easier for upgrades (XE on xwiki.org and watch are separate) >>>>> this makes me +1 for a separate wiki. I would have had it in the >>>>> watch wiki on >>>>> xwiki.org but, since the goal is to have the latest version of >>>>> watch >>>>> running >>>>> there, we need to make sure it is freely upgradable (which can >>>>> require upgrading >>>>> the underlying XE). >>>>> >>>>> Otherwise, I still think it should be on watch.xwiki.org rather >>>>> than >>>>> xwiki.org >>>>> for consistency reasons, since it would be a demo of watch -- that >>>>> is the main >>>>> purpose as I see it, allowing people to click around and have a >>>>> quick look >>>>> without having to download, install, etc. >>>> Then we still have a disagreement :) >>>> >>>> Right now (and I'd like to keep it this way) all wikis on the >>>> xwiki.org domain are for *real*. They are not test platforms for >>>> people to see how xwiki works and have some fun trying it. They >>>> have >>>> real usages (documentation of the xwiki software). >>>> We have one exception: this is playground.xwiki.org which is there >>>> for >>>> people to test and play around. >>>> >>>> Thus my proposal is: >>>> >>>> 1) have a new wiki (news.xwiki.org, same as we have jira.xwiki.org, >>>> svn.xwiki.org and maven.xwiki.org) which will be our news "portal". >>>> Note: It will also listen to the xwiki.org Blog feed. >>>> 2) have a Watch space in playground.xwiki.org for people to try out >>>> Watch. >>> it makes a lot of sense, so: >>> +0 for 1: it would be nice to have it, it would be nice to have it >>> working >>> properly (having people *really* collaboratively watching) but that >>> is not the >>> purpose I started this thread for. >> >> I think we would learn a lot from it, eating our own dog food at the >> community level. >> >>> +1 for 2, since this one is :). But now we're back one mail to the >>> upgrade >>> problem: I would like to have always the last version of watch >>> running in the >>> playground, which could require platform / XE upgrades, from time to >>> time, since >>> the plugins & modules that watch is using don't really have their >>> own lifecycle, >>> yet. >> >> We need to talk to Raff. I think right now playground is a subwiki on >> the xwiki.org farm. >> >> Right now the xwiki.org is upgraded to the latest version of XE >> whenever it's released (within 1 or 2 weeks usually) so I don't see a >> problem. When we do this upgrade we can upgrade watch too. And if the >> watch releases comes later we upgrade watch only. Unless final watch >> releases use non final XE releases. Is that the case? > > no, it is not. > But XWatch milestones do use XE milestones and, since Watch release > cycles are > pretty long for the moment, it would be interesting to have all > milestones. > Do we use milestones on xwiki.org?
No. XWiki.org must be stable. I'd suggest you make smaller release cycles :) That can only be good! Thanks -Vincent [snip] _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
