Hi Cati, On 02/01/2010 01:23 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote: > IMO: > > There is an Add button in the Annotation Options Area. > > - I go to the content > - I SELECT the text > - I press: > - OR the Add button > - OR Ctrl + defined key
Indeed, this sounds like a good option for making the 'add' button accessible in any context (when scrolling for example). > - A popup at the selected text location appears to let me add an annotation. > > This way I can select the text without any problem in my usual copy/paste > rutine. And when I want to add an annotation I simply click a button or have > a key shortcut. > > I don't understand why it is necessarily to have the Ctrl activated when I > do my selection or any other versions that appear boxes when I select text. nop, no need, a meta + shortcut indeed is a good choice (and technically easier to achieve, also by using the actual selection rather than the clicks, as Sergiu was directing, a few mails earlier). The only thing is that it would be an extra click / extra button push (just as 3/ requires an extra click), but I think that's ok. Thanks, Anca > > 3) is ok too > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 18:48, Sergiu Dumitriu<[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 01/29/2010 05:39 PM, Anca Luca wrote: >>> Hi Sergiu >>> >>> On 01/29/2010 06:28 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote: >>>> On 01/29/2010 03:53 PM, Anca Luca wrote: >>>>> Short story: >>>>> Can't use modifier keys since there is no decent cross browser >> alternative. >>>>> >>>>> New "default" way: >>>>> 1/ current solution presented at >>>>> >> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/AnnotationsProposal#HAddbut >>>>> with more accessible "add" button (options?) >>>>> 2/ when annotations are shown simple select triggers the display of >> annotation >>>>> dialog >>>>> 3/ simple select displays a little add icon to be clicked and display >> the >>>>> annotation dialog (1/ with button next to selection) >>>>> 4/ checkbox to enable 2/ >>>>> >>>>> WDYT? >>>>> >>>>> I think I like 2 or 4. >>>> >>>> I prefer 3. Without a mouse it's easy to break a selection, so here one >>>> saved click sometimes means an extra close dialog. >>> >>> I don't know if I understand exactly, but for me any would go, so I >> registered >>> your opinion. >> >> It's not a strong opinion, and definitely not a -1 for all the others, >> just my preference. >> >>>> >>>> But I wonder how will it be implemented, simple onmousedown/onmouseup >>>> handlers?What happens if I select text using the keyboard? >>> >>> I can look into selection handlers, but if it takes too long, I will do >> mouseup >>> mousedown since frankly, without being disrespectful to users needs, I >> doubt >>> there would be anyone else selecting text with the keyboard. >> >> As long as it will be easy to change the trigger later, feel free to >> take the easiest approach at the moment. >> >>>> What happens >>>> if I select text with the mouse then adjust the selection with the >> keyboard? >>> >>> That would be simple, I could just use whatever selection in the document >> when >>> user clicks the "add annotation" button (the form submit that is). >> >> Then this is good enough for my needs. >> >>> Thanks, >>> Anca >>> >>>> >>>>> See below for long version. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Anca >>>>> >>>>> On 01/29/2010 04:36 PM, Anca Luca wrote: >>>>>> Hi devs, >>>>>> >>>>>> On 01/16/2010 09:14 PM, Anca Luca wrote: >>>>>> [snip] >>>>>>> * adding an annotation could be done by pushing the "add button" then >> going in >>>>>>> the content& selecting text and when the mouse is up, the create >> window >>>>>>> appears. In other words, pushing the add button would have the same >> behaviour as >>>>>>> holding the CTRL key down. Speaking of which, it seems that CTRL + >> select is >>>>>>> reserved in firefox for selecting a table or smth, and I also think >> it's >>>>>>> reserved to selecting full words in IEs. Could you investigate on >> that and try >>>>>>> to figure out what other modifier could do the job? (if a modifier is >> required) >>>>>> >>>>>> I had a look at this and I have the following results: >>>>>> * CTRL + select text: >>>>>> - CTRL + mouse down is a shortcut for 'select full paragraph' in IE >> browsers >>>>>> which means it will select the entire paragraph and will be hard to >> get the >>>>>> selection working normally on the text you want to add annotation on >> (it's >>>>>> possible to get to a normal select mode but with some pain). I haven't >> found a >>>>>> way to prevent that behaviour >>>>>> - CTRL + mouse down is a shortcut for selecting entire table cells in >> Firefox: >>>>>> cannot select only the text in a cell, by any means. I haven't found a >> way to >>>>>> prevent that behaviour >>>>>> * ALT + select text: >>>>>> - seems to be fine on all browsers, doesn't interfere with any other >> reserved >>>>>> keys (tested on firefox, chrome, IE) under windows, some mac BUT >>>>>> - on Ubuntu, the ALT+drag combination is a system function for moving >> windows >>>>>> around on the screen. There is no way I can 'override' that from the >> browser. >>>>>> * SHIFT + select text: >>>>>> - It's weird on ff and chrome since it's an accessibility shortcut for >> selecting >>>>>> text (for those who cannot drag). Namely if you hold shift while mouse >> down, it >>>>>> will select all the content from the last click you made.) >>>>>> >>>>>> Because of all these, I think it would be hard to rely on some >> modifier key, so >>>>>> we need a more accessible alternative. >>>>>> >>>>>> By also looking at some other annotations in other applications, I see >> the >>>>>> following options: >>>>>> 1/ the alternative described at: >>>>>> >> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/AnnotationsProposal#HAdd(but >>>>>> which has dissappeared from the last proposal at >>>>>> >> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/AnnotationsProposal/integrated.png >>>>>> ), except that it should be more accessible since it would now be the >> default >>>>>> way of adding annotations. (making it visible on scroll for example) >>>>>> 2/ while annotations are 'activated' (all or partially displayed on >> the >>>>>> document) simply selecting (no modifier) will trigger the annotation >> dialog >>>>>> 3/ simply selecting always displays a little icon which can be clicked >> to open >>>>>> the create dialog (for example, the way the accelerators icon is added >> to >>>>>> selected text on IE8). It would less annoy regular selection, and also >> enable >>>>>> annotations on it, but it's an extraclick to add an annotation >>>>>> 4/ provide a checkbox "annotations mode", which when activated >> (regardless of >>>>>> whether other annotations are displayed or not), will trigger >> annotation add >>>>>> dialog on simple select. This solution is similar to 1/ >>>>>> >>>>>> WDYT? How would you see it? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks a lot, >>>>>> Anca >> >> >> -- >> Sergiu Dumitriu >> http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ >> _______________________________________________ >> devs mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >> > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
