Hi, I don't quite agree with you about this Vincent.
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: > Just to be clear: your proposal is great Caty but I think it's not adapted > for what I envision for the new xwiki.org. > > I'd really like that we think about a community web site: > - a one line project description (ecosystem) with a link to "projects" > Right now most of the focus is on XWiki Enterprise thus I'm not sure what the value of presenting an "ecosystem" is... Can't that role be played by the "Extensions" space? > - a small space reserved to XE (just an image that can be clicked for ex) > Right now the top 5 most viewed pages on the xwiki.org website are as follows: www.xwiki.org/view/Main/WebHome<https://www.google.com/analytics/reporting/?reset=1&id=1975305> www.xwiki.org/view/Main/Download<https://www.google.com/analytics/reporting/?reset=1&id=1975305> platform.xwiki.org/view/AdminGuide/Installation<https://www.google.com/analytics/reporting/?reset=1&id=1975305> enterprise.xwiki.org/view/Main/WebHome<https://www.google.com/analytics/reporting/?reset=1&id=1975305> www.xwiki.org/view/Main/ProductDocumentation<https://www.google.com/analytics/reporting/?reset=1&id=1975305> As you can see, the pages that see to matter most to users are the pages about how to download, install and use XWiki Enterprise. This seems to indicate that putting a strong focus on XWiki Enterprise makes more sense than going for a community approach that would "hide" XWiki Enterprise behind a link. > - a large space reserved for the community as described below. > I think the user flow is more like: - Go to XWiki.org - Download the product and use it - If happy about the product -> come back later and see what more they can do Thus the community part is the one that comes 2nd and shouldn't be the most prominent on the homepage. WDYT? Guillaume > Thanks > -Vincent > > On Mar 25, 2010, at 12:57 PM, Vincent Massol wrote: > > > Hi Caty, > > > > On Mar 25, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> *General Proposal: * > >> > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgProposal2 > > > > We had already commented on the previous proposals and now this is a new > proposals which is quite different. Does it mean we need to restart the > discussions? > > Can we have a *single* location where we can see all proposals so that we > can make our mind. Right now I keep seeing new proposals coming from > different places and I'm not sure anymore what we are discussing about. > > It might also be good to gather the points we agreed on on that page so > that we don't restart all over again every time. > > > > Some comments on this new proposal: > > * I don't like too much having panels on both sides. I'd prefer panels on > a single side. > > * I don't like the horizontal tab UI > > * I don't understand the reason for the arrows on the left and right. It > looks as if I can click on them and the main content will scroll, is that > it? > > * I don't like that the description of the project is in a panel on the > left. I'd really prefer it to be in the main content area, above XWiki > Enterprise. > > * I'd like that the main page explains that the XWiki project is an > ecosystem of projects. > > * "see what users have to say..." look really strange where it's located. > > * Footer looks good > > * The 3 big buttons sounds slightly too flashy compared to the rest > > * We don't see latest modified pages > > * My biggest complaint: The home page doesn't look like a community site > at all. This is important. Showing avatars + names would a way to achieve > this. Actually I think I'd prefer that the home be 100% about the community > only and have a link to direct to the XE page. The current home page could > be used as the main home page for the XE project page instead. > > > > Conclusion: I'd really like to see a proposal where the home page is a > community site proposal showing contributors activities (avatar + names) on: > > - extensions (extensions.xwiki.org) > > - modified pages in the wiki(s) > > - mailing list messages > > - code commits > > > > Thanks > > -Vincent > > > >> *Main Page: * > >> > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgProposal2Main > >> > >> The main page has a different layout from the rest of the pages; > >> > >> - The footer< > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgArchitecture > >is > >> used to have a quick overview on the major topics the website covers; > >> - just the Main Page has this footer; > >> - contains just links to major topics for each category; > >> - The Projects are presented in an carousel: XWiki Enterprise, XWiki > >> Office, Extensions + other Temporal Thematic Pages (major releases, > events, > >> etc); > >> - Right panels contains Latest information; > >> > >> *Documentation Page Example*: > >> > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgProposal2Documentation > >> > >> - Right Panels are changing according to the space; > >> - Main Navigation + Left Oriented Secondary Navigation + Breadcrumb; > >> - Comments enabled for documentation pages > >> > >> *Projects Page Example*: > >> > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgProposal2Projects > >> > >> *About Page Example*: > >> > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgProposal2About > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Caty > > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > -- Guillaume Lerouge Product Manager - XWiki SAS Skype: wikibc Twitter: glerouge http://guillaumelerouge.com/ _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
