Hi,

I'm -1 for the idea of moving votes about some selected topics to a 
secret mailing list.

The most important point of public votes is to provide transparency to 
the community, which not only consists of informing the community of 
secretly made decisions, but also explaining why those decisions were 
made and leaving a possibility for everyone to discuss and interact with 
the committers.  Remember, that by our rules, anyone is allowed to vote, 
it's just that only the committers have a binding vote.

I agree that choosing and excluding new committers are sensitive topics, 
so it makes sense to discuss such things in private first, but the 
actual vote should be public, with committers standing behind their 
votes and with enough time for others (i.e. for not-committers) to speak 
up and influence the vote.

So I'm +0 for a private mailing list for sensitive topics (+0 because I 
don't see how contacting 15 people that are all in the same skype chat 
once a year is hard), but we should not vote there.


Thanks,
Alex


On 10.10.2011 15:05, Vincent Massol wrote:
> Hi devs,
>
> There are a few topics that are not supposed to be public or that would be 
> better be not public.
>
> One such topic is when we want to VOTE someone as a committer. It's very 
> uncomfortable to do this in the open for the following reasons:
> * committers are tempted to VOTE +1 since voting negatively is seen publicly, 
> including by the person being voted on
> * it's very undelicate to have this in the open especially if the person is 
> voted down since that'll affect that person's morale and future participation 
> in the project
>
> So I'd like to propose creating a [email protected] list with the 
> following characteristics:
> * private, visible only to committers
>
> I also propose it to use it for voting committers.
>
> WDYT?
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
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