+1 too, Thanks, Marius
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Denis Gervalle <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:33, Guillaume Lerouge <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> after thinking about it (and an IRL discussion with Vincent) here's my >> updated point of view on this: >> >> - Have a private mailing list for committers >> - If a committer feels that it's time for a contributor to become a >> committer, he suggests her on the private mailing list >> - Discussion on the private list ensues, committers decide whether the >> contributor is ready or not >> - If the contributor is not deemed ready, the process stops >> - If the contributor is deemed ready, the proposer talks to her privately >> and asks her whether she would be interested in becoming a committer >> - If she's not interested, the process stops >> - If she's interested, a public vote is launched on the devs mailing >> list >> >> This way the vote is still public and non-committers can voice their >> feedback, but there is a central location for the initial discussion >> (instead of the proposer having to go and talk to every committer privately >> on Skype, IRC and the like). We also keep the benefits of people standing >> publicly by their votes. >> >> WDYT? >> > > I have refrain myself from adding to the discussion until now since I was > strongly -1 initially, but presented this way, I am now +1. I would add > that, anything that a commiter do not feel ready for public discussion could > be discussed on this private ML, but that nothing could be decide there > without a public vote. This is already what we could do by skype or other > direct discussion, and it therefore does not change anything to the current > transparency of the project governance. > > Denis > > >> >> Guillaume >> >> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 4:18 AM, Jerome Velociter <[email protected] >> >wrote: >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > I know Vincent retracted this vote for now, but just for the record >> > and for the balance, I would definitely have +1'd. >> > I support especially the point that it's tough to express reserves on >> > someone's work publicly, even in an open world. And that in the end we >> > might tend to just not do it when we should. >> > >> > Jerome >> > >> > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > > Hi devs, >> > > >> > > There are a few topics that are not supposed to be public or that would >> > be better be not public. >> > > >> > > One such topic is when we want to VOTE someone as a committer. It's >> very >> > uncomfortable to do this in the open for the following reasons: >> > > * committers are tempted to VOTE +1 since voting negatively is seen >> > publicly, including by the person being voted on >> > > * it's very undelicate to have this in the open especially if the >> person >> > is voted down since that'll affect that person's morale and future >> > participation in the project >> > > >> > > So I'd like to propose creating a [email protected] list with the >> > following characteristics: >> > > * private, visible only to committers >> > > >> > > I also propose it to use it for voting committers. >> > > >> > > WDYT? >> > > >> > > Thanks >> > > -Vincent >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > devs mailing list >> > > [email protected] >> > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Jérôme Velociter >> > Winesquare >> > http://www.winesquare.net/ >> > _______________________________________________ >> > devs mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> devs mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >> > > > > -- > Denis Gervalle > SOFTEC sa - CEO > eGuilde sarl - CTO > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
