On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:33, Guillaume Lerouge <[email protected]>wrote:
> Hi, > > after thinking about it (and an IRL discussion with Vincent) here's my > updated point of view on this: > > - Have a private mailing list for committers > - If a committer feels that it's time for a contributor to become a > committer, he suggests her on the private mailing list > - Discussion on the private list ensues, committers decide whether the > contributor is ready or not > - If the contributor is not deemed ready, the process stops > - If the contributor is deemed ready, the proposer talks to her privately > and asks her whether she would be interested in becoming a committer > - If she's not interested, the process stops > - If she's interested, a public vote is launched on the devs mailing > list > > This way the vote is still public and non-committers can voice their > feedback, but there is a central location for the initial discussion > (instead of the proposer having to go and talk to every committer privately > on Skype, IRC and the like). We also keep the benefits of people standing > publicly by their votes. > > WDYT? > I have refrain myself from adding to the discussion until now since I was strongly -1 initially, but presented this way, I am now +1. I would add that, anything that a commiter do not feel ready for public discussion could be discussed on this private ML, but that nothing could be decide there without a public vote. This is already what we could do by skype or other direct discussion, and it therefore does not change anything to the current transparency of the project governance. Denis > > Guillaume > > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 4:18 AM, Jerome Velociter <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I know Vincent retracted this vote for now, but just for the record > > and for the balance, I would definitely have +1'd. > > I support especially the point that it's tough to express reserves on > > someone's work publicly, even in an open world. And that in the end we > > might tend to just not do it when we should. > > > > Jerome > > > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > Hi devs, > > > > > > There are a few topics that are not supposed to be public or that would > > be better be not public. > > > > > > One such topic is when we want to VOTE someone as a committer. It's > very > > uncomfortable to do this in the open for the following reasons: > > > * committers are tempted to VOTE +1 since voting negatively is seen > > publicly, including by the person being voted on > > > * it's very undelicate to have this in the open especially if the > person > > is voted down since that'll affect that person's morale and future > > participation in the project > > > > > > So I'd like to propose creating a [email protected] list with the > > following characteristics: > > > * private, visible only to committers > > > > > > I also propose it to use it for voting committers. > > > > > > WDYT? > > > > > > Thanks > > > -Vincent > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > devs mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jérôme Velociter > > Winesquare > > http://www.winesquare.net/ > > _______________________________________________ > > devs mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > -- Denis Gervalle SOFTEC sa - CEO eGuilde sarl - CTO _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
