Brent, There is a chance we have come to an impasse. But to be clear I agree with you on a few points: 1. Corn ethanol is not something I consider under "renewable energy", given that corn requires fossil fuel to produce. 2. If someone gives you money for flower and cooking fuel, then yes, your bread is subsidized.
The fact that oil rigs were shut down after the worst oil spill in US history surprises you, that you can chalk up the fact that emissions from fossil fuel warms the planet as junk science, or that subsidizing clean energy so that the technology become more viable in the future does not make sense are points that I hope you will reconsider. Cheers On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:50 PM, bingham <[email protected]> wrote: > Steve, > Thanks for the brief glimmer of relief "Count me among those who look > forward to the end of this thread " before you also piled on. I live in a > family of tree hugging flaming liberals from my uncles to most of my > brothers. I do not subscribe to the liberal belief that repeating something > over and over makes it true. > I think if you fallow the money you usually get to the truth. Find out who > funds something then look into there beliefs. If is not a coincidence that > the studies people and groups fund almost always aggress with their > preconceived notions. > It is obvious continuing this thread well serve no useful purpose. I am not > saying you all do not believe what you are saying but who or what puts food > on your > tables. Does cheep energy help or hurt you make a living? Does AD some how > directly or indirectly fund your activities? Would "climate change' being > proven > to be a hoax help or hurt your activities? > > I have proven with my own money (not money from a grant, a study or some > other out side source) that AD has a place with out regard for energy costs > or global warming. AD can stand on its own in the bright light of day > irrespective of our side influences. I do not make a living from AD in any > way and so I can > say it with out a political ax to grind. > It is my bed time framers get up early around hear. Must get up early and > turn the auger on to feed the AD in the AM > Good night, > B > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Steve Verhey <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 19, 2011 6:42 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Digestion] Biogas conversation rates > > > Count me among those who look forward to the end of this thread. Even so, I > can't resist offering some data: > http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=48574 . > > ------------------------------ > Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 17:31:30 -0800 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Digestion] Biogas conversation rates > > Eric, > good points all, but let's not forget that Brent believes climate change is > cooked up by conspirators. > > > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:31 PM, bingham <[email protected]> wrote: > > ...global warming has been debunked as junk science produced > by a group of co conspirators paid to produce a set of data which would > support an pre conceived agenda. > > > > > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Eric Buysman <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Hence, when taking a holistic perspective, considering externalities, there > is a good case to assume that fossil fuels are artificially cheap. > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Digestion mailing list > > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address > [email protected] > > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page > > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/digestion_lists.bioenergylists.org > > for more information about digestion, see > Beginner's Guide to Biogas > http://www.adelaide.edu.au/biogas/ > and the Biogas Wiki http://biogas.wikispaces.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Digestion mailing list > > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address > [email protected] > > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page > > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/digestion_lists.bioenergylists.org > > for more information about digestion, see > Beginner's Guide to Biogas > http://www.adelaide.edu.au/biogas/ > and the Biogas Wiki http://biogas.wikispaces.com/ > > > -- Alexander Eaton Sistema Biobolsa IRRI-Mexico RedBioLAC Mex cel: (55) 11522786 US cel: 970 275 4505 [email protected] [email protected] sistemabiobolsa.com www.irrimexico.org www.redbiolac.org
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