Ruben, you must not read my emails. Refer back to my earlier emails. I stated that the stupid energy policy of the current regime was creating a situation in which we were only now going to hit an all time high for farm commodities. The primes of my position is that manipulating the system Has "unintended consequences". The price traders sell commodities on international markets seldom represent the price US farmers receive. The current price of cotton is a glairing example. Almost all cotton farmers In the US were paid half or less than what the traders received.
Fossil fuels are free in the ground as I have stated. Look what the markup is on petroleum products. It is nearly the lowest of all industries. Those evil oil companies are getting less than 10% markup. Ok, if I accept your primes that gluttones energy users are causing the claimed "global warming" what caused the previous episodes of "Global warming" and subsequent Ice ages???? Good old Al Gore has been quoted as saying you could stop all fossil use and could not achieve one full degree of cooling. I believe the UN was one of the sources of the funds that paid the junk scientists for the junk science that supported The global warming hoax which they now call " global climate change" due to the lack of credible scientific evidence. Brent ----- Original Message ----- From: Reuben Deumling To: For Discussion of Anaerobic Digestion Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [Digestion] Biogas conversation rates On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 5:07 PM, bingham <[email protected]> wrote: ...It costs more in natural gas to distill than it is worth. I thought fossil fuels were free. When I use ???? or !!!! it is my way to express my skepticism and or incredulity, not volume or anger. In your lingo I would now be inclined to insert 13 question marks to express my incredulity. the primary reason for lower grain costs not subsidies. If you check the prices US farmers were paid over the last 3 decades, you will see those prices have not gone up, nearly as much. Your primes is based on out dated information and according to my sources your source was not credible when it was written. Perhaps you can find a government source to support there numbers in as much as the government is supposedly making the payments. <<more incredulous question marks inserted>> "And on January 5, the U.N. Food and Agricultural organization announced that its food price index for December hit an all-time high.... But whereas in years past, it's been weather that has caused a spike in commodities prices, now it's trends on both sides of the food supply/demand equation that are driving up prices. On the demand side, the culprits are population growth, rising affluence, and the use of grain to fuel cars. On the supply side: soil erosion, aquifer depletion, the loss of cropland to nonfarm uses, the diversion of irrigation water to cities, the plateauing of crop yields in agriculturally advanced countries, and—due to climate change —crop-withering heat waves and melting mountain glaciers and ice sheets. These climate-related trends seem destined to take a far greater toll in the future." (excerpts from the article copied above in full, and published in Foreign Affairs, which you might want to glance at) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Digestion mailing list to Send a Message to the list, use the email address [email protected] to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/digestion_lists.bioenergylists.org for more information about digestion, see Beginner's Guide to Biogas http://www.adelaide.edu.au/biogas/ and the Biogas Wiki http://biogas.wikispaces.com/
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