On Saturday, 16 July 2016 at 07:14:03 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
On Thursday, 14 July 2016 at 23:38:17 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 7/14/2016 6:26 AM, Chris wrote:
Now, now. Where's your sense of humor?
The thing is, he's just here to troll us. His posts all follow
the same pattern of relentlessly finding nothing good
whatsoever in D, and we're all idiots.
Whoah, that's sensitive. Never called anyone an idiot, but D
zealots seem to have a very low threshold for calling everyone
else with a little bit of experience idiots if they see room
for change in the language. The excesses of broken
argumentation in this newsgroup is keeping change from coming
to the language.
It is apparent by now that you and Andrei quite often produce
smog screens to cover your trails of broken argument chains,
which only serve to defend status quo and not really lead to
the language to a competitive position. And no, you are not
right just because you declare it, and no if you loose an
argument it is not because someone changed the topic.
The sad part about D is that it could've become a major player,
but is very unlikely to become one without outside help and
less hostile attitude towards rather basic CS. But outside help
is not really wanted. Because apparently D can become a major
player by 2020 without a cleanup according to you and Andrei.
It is highly unlikely for D to become a major player without
language cleanup and opening more up to outside input.
I didn't see anyone call you an idiot either. You and Walter have
both gone too far, probably because you're annoyed at each
other's words and attitude:
Walter called Prolog "singularly useless". You have been
referring to changes that would amount to a new major version of
D as "a cleanup". From the forums, my sense is that there IS a
groundswell of opinion, that D2 has some major mistakes in it
that can't be rectified without doing a D3, and there's a strong
reaction to that idea based on experience with D1 -> D2. Perhaps
what is needed is a separate area for discussion about ideas that
would require a major version change. The thing about that is
that it can't be done incrementally; it's the rare kind of thing
that would need to be planned long in advance, and would have to
amount to a huge improvement to justify even considering it.
