This discussion would be absolutely hilarious if it were not so sad.
To call elementaryOS a rip-off of OS x is a bit of the pot calling the
kettle, GNUstep started life as an almost pixel-for-pixel copy of
NeXTStep 4.2. elementaryOS is a very usable and viable operating
system which is also easy to extend and customize. It has quickly
become my choice of OS, as I would much rather build up to my desired
state than need to remove a bunch of useless resource hogging garbage.
It is well thought out and extremely attractive in its default
incarnation. The way an operating system looks is important to me or
I would never have had an interest in GNUstep. I have 4 Mac computers
and all but one of them are running elementaryOS, with best-of-class
software including LibreOffice, FireFox, Gimp and Acrobat. The systems
boot in 15 seconds and each of those rather large programs starts in 2
seconds or less. I have a wide selection of Gnome and GTK applications
to choose from that are actually USABLE.
GNUstep is not an OS, it is not even a desktop! GNUstep is a nearly
useless framework that NO-ONE uses for productive work on a day-to-day
basis. The developers dedicate their time to developing new back-ends
(what is it now 5 or 6, none of which actually work well), and chasing
esoteric OS X capabilities which invariably break the few, very few,
GNUstep applications that almost work. Look through the archives; time
and again the "developers" admit that they DO NOT use GNUstep for
anything except possibly developing GNUstep.
A new look for the website is NOT going to make any difference!
GNUstep is dead and has been for a very long time. Who is going to
load a massive set of libraries that do not even conform to modern
filesystem standards, try to figure out how to source an environment,
locate some applications pretending to be folders in
/opt/GNUstep/system/applications (or wherever they are located) just
to play with a couple of programs that halfway work.
Riccardo, Phillipe you guys have worked hard to make GNUstep actually
usable! You both should find a project where your talents and hard
work can be appreciated, a project that has a user base bigger than
ZERO.
GNUstep could have been THE Linux desktop and should be the alternative
to OS X for people who actually have a brain but it has been chasing
its own tail for so long (nearly 20 years now) there is no hope that it
will ever amount to anything. Users have GOT to drive application
development and application development has GOT to drive core
development. That does not work for GNUstep because there are no users
and core developers have always tried to force application developers
to adjust to their whims resulting in all of the good application
developers giving up and moving on.
Goodbye GNUstep, you could have been great.
J. Jordan
Long time hopeful that GNUstep would amount to something.
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