James, GNUstep is used for day to day development by a number of companies and has been in active development for many years now.
While I understand your ire, it is unjustified and your tone on this mailing list is trollbait and unacceptable. So, I hope you'll fully understand when I say that I'm banning you from it. Thanks, GC On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 2:41 PM, James Jordan <[email protected]>wrote: > This discussion would be absolutely hilarious if it were not so sad. To > call elementaryOS a rip-off of OS x is a bit of the pot calling the kettle, > GNUstep started life as an almost pixel-for-pixel copy of NeXTStep 4.2. > elementaryOS is a very usable and viable operating system which is also > easy to extend and customize. It has quickly become my choice of OS, as I > would much rather build up to my desired state than need to remove a bunch > of useless resource hogging garbage. It is well thought out and extremely > attractive in its default incarnation. The way an operating system > looks is important to me or I would never have had an interest in GNUstep. > I have 4 Mac computers and all but one of them are running elementaryOS, > with best-of-class software including LibreOffice, FireFox, Gimp and > Acrobat. The systems boot in 15 seconds and each of those rather large > programs starts in 2 seconds or less. I have a wide selection of Gnome and > GTK applications to choose from that are actually USABLE. > > GNUstep is not an OS, it is not even a desktop! GNUstep is a nearly > useless framework that NO-ONE uses for productive work on a day-to-day > basis. The developers dedicate their time to developing new back-ends > (what is it now 5 or 6, none of which actually work well), and chasing > esoteric OS X capabilities which invariably break the few, very few, > GNUstep applications that almost work. Look through the archives; time and > again the "developers" admit that they DO NOT use GNUstep for anything > except possibly developing GNUstep. > > A new look for the website is NOT going to make any difference! GNUstep > is dead and has been for a very long time. Who is going to load a massive > set of libraries that do not even conform to modern filesystem standards, > try to figure out how to source an environment, locate some applications > pretending to be folders in /opt/GNUstep/system/applications (or wherever > they are located) just to play with a couple of programs that halfway work. > > Riccardo, Phillipe you guys have worked hard to make GNUstep actually > usable! You both should find a project where your talents and hard work > can be appreciated, a project that has a user base bigger than ZERO. > > GNUstep could have been THE Linux desktop and should be the alternative to > OS X for people who actually have a brain but it has been chasing its own > tail for so long (nearly 20 years now) there is no hope that it will ever > amount to anything. Users have GOT to drive application development and > application development has GOT to drive core development. That does not > work for GNUstep because there are no users and core developers have always > tried to force application developers to adjust to their whims resulting in > all of the good application developers giving up and moving on. > > Goodbye GNUstep, you could have been great. > > J. Jordan > Long time hopeful that GNUstep would amount to something. > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss-gnustep mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep > > -- Gregory Casamento Open Logic Corporation, Principal Consultant yahoo/skype: greg_casamento, aol: gjcasa (240)274-9630 (Cell) http://www.gnustep.org http://heronsperch.blogspot.com
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