It's important to underscore. While opinions are valued here, deliberate trollbait is not. We've had far too many problems and time consuming flamewars lately. I did this to nip it in the bud so that we can actually concentrate on making GNUstep better.
GC On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Gregory Casamento <[email protected]>wrote: > James, > > GNUstep is used for day to day development by a number of companies and > has been in active development for many years now. > > While I understand your ire, it is unjustified and your tone on this > mailing list is trollbait and unacceptable. > > So, I hope you'll fully understand when I say that I'm banning you from it. > > Thanks, GC > > > On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 2:41 PM, James Jordan > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> This discussion would be absolutely hilarious if it were not so sad. To >> call elementaryOS a rip-off of OS x is a bit of the pot calling the kettle, >> GNUstep started life as an almost pixel-for-pixel copy of NeXTStep 4.2. >> elementaryOS is a very usable and viable operating system which is also >> easy to extend and customize. It has quickly become my choice of OS, as I >> would much rather build up to my desired state than need to remove a bunch >> of useless resource hogging garbage. It is well thought out and extremely >> attractive in its default incarnation. The way an operating system >> looks is important to me or I would never have had an interest in GNUstep. >> I have 4 Mac computers and all but one of them are running elementaryOS, >> with best-of-class software including LibreOffice, FireFox, Gimp and >> Acrobat. The systems boot in 15 seconds and each of those rather large >> programs starts in 2 seconds or less. I have a wide selection of Gnome and >> GTK applications to choose from that are actually USABLE. >> >> GNUstep is not an OS, it is not even a desktop! GNUstep is a nearly >> useless framework that NO-ONE uses for productive work on a day-to-day >> basis. The developers dedicate their time to developing new back-ends >> (what is it now 5 or 6, none of which actually work well), and chasing >> esoteric OS X capabilities which invariably break the few, very few, >> GNUstep applications that almost work. Look through the archives; time and >> again the "developers" admit that they DO NOT use GNUstep for anything >> except possibly developing GNUstep. >> >> A new look for the website is NOT going to make any difference! GNUstep >> is dead and has been for a very long time. Who is going to load a massive >> set of libraries that do not even conform to modern filesystem standards, >> try to figure out how to source an environment, locate some applications >> pretending to be folders in /opt/GNUstep/system/applications (or wherever >> they are located) just to play with a couple of programs that halfway work. >> >> Riccardo, Phillipe you guys have worked hard to make GNUstep actually >> usable! You both should find a project where your talents and hard work >> can be appreciated, a project that has a user base bigger than ZERO. >> >> GNUstep could have been THE Linux desktop and should be the alternative >> to OS X for people who actually have a brain but it has been chasing its >> own tail for so long (nearly 20 years now) there is no hope that it will >> ever amount to anything. Users have GOT to drive application development >> and application development has GOT to drive core development. That does >> not work for GNUstep because there are no users and core developers have >> always tried to force application developers to adjust to their whims >> resulting in all of the good application developers giving up and moving on. >> >> Goodbye GNUstep, you could have been great. >> >> J. Jordan >> Long time hopeful that GNUstep would amount to something. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss-gnustep mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep >> >> > > > -- > Gregory Casamento > Open Logic Corporation, Principal Consultant > yahoo/skype: greg_casamento, aol: gjcasa > (240)274-9630 (Cell) > http://www.gnustep.org > http://heronsperch.blogspot.com > -- Gregory Casamento Open Logic Corporation, Principal Consultant yahoo/skype: greg_casamento, aol: gjcasa (240)274-9630 (Cell) http://www.gnustep.org http://heronsperch.blogspot.com
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