On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Liam Proven <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 10 February 2014 16:55, Thom Cherryhomes <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Why don't you actually roll up your sleeves, and try to build it?
>
> You can keep your patronising, smug and superior "there is no argument
> here".


That kind of patronising, smug and superior behavior as you, Liam, are
exhibiting now is precisely the reason why I'm in full support of Gregory's
banning smug Flammenwerfer-bearing posters.

We've had this kind of non-productive non-discussions on this mailing list
too often in the last few months. People unhappy with GNUstep's direction
are welcome to making use of the helpful properties of LGPL, such as the
freedoms to run, copy, study and modify. Responding to such an invitation
to make use of your liberties with "you're patronising and smug" and at the
same time denying active contributors' liberties by demanding they obey
your commands is insulting.

If a [potential] user is unhappy that she cannot fix the issue herself
(since, for example, she hasn't programmed since 80s), this user should
consider hiring someone to fix the specific issues this user encounters.
The fact that there are people out there who can compare operating systems
for a living makes me genuinely happy; that doesn't mean they should be
making demands.

I don't think there is a single person on this mailing list who wouldn't
love to have GNUstep usable by an 'average Joe'. I personally have many,
many, many ideas on what we can do and how we can make GNUstep more
approachable. It doesn't make sense to repeatedly annoy others with what I
believe needs to be done until I myself am willing to roll up my sleeves.

*If people believe discuss-gnustep@ is the right place for flamewars, then
it's very tempting to unsubscribe from this mailing list and encourage
future constructive participation on gnustep-dev@, where a banhammer would
be wielded more liberally.*

Having said that, I'm done with this thread.
-- 
Ivan Vučica
[email protected]
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