Friday, Friday, October 26, 2001, 1:55:54 PM, Darryl Green wrote:

> Two: We have been looking at all manner of methods to make the verification
> procedures as quick and pain-free as possible. This includes bringing this

This is only a part of the problem.  Honestly, though, the QuickSSL
method seems the best choice.

We use this method to verify the OWNERSHIP of domain names during
registrar transfers.  That we trust something which is frankly much
more important, since anyone can get a cert once they get the domain
name, is one of the best arguments for using the same method to
authenticate certificate requests.

Lastly is price.  This market would be HUGE if the resellers could
market the product in the $69-89 range, and it would turn the market
on it's ear.  This is the more important issue.  When the wholesale
cost is $99, in this market, that's a sideline occasional sale item.
Most webhosting customers are instead going with shared cert models at
ISPs as a result, where the ISP can get a wildcard cert and spread the
cost out over xxx customers.

Yes, Geotrust's model is somewhat a break from the "traditional" CA
model.

But I think that is a recognition of the change in the way the
internet is viewed and being used, and the dropping of what are, to
most, deprecated and/or completely unknown meanings behind a signed
cert.

As for browsers, I've tested the FreeSSL product with IE6+, IE 5.5+ and
IE 5.00.29+ and it does not give a cert warning.  5.00.23 and below do.
Netscape does not have support for the FreeSSL, but my understanding
is that Netscape 6.x MIGHT support the QuickSSL, I haven't tested that
yet.  Still IE5 and IE6 and the new MSN Explorer give a vast
visibility for the QuickSSL product.

As for the browser argument, I'm really getting to the point where I
say, screw the browser maker's opinions.  If you have a strong
distribution network, you can easily get your root cert onto user's
systems.  Partner with popular shareware software makers to subsidize
them somewhat, and in their software's install process, unless the
user turns off the option, it will place your CA Cert into their
browsers' configs.

I'm at a point where I think it's Guerrilla marketing time for this
industry.

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