This is not "research" "product development" or a "testbed" .... Tucows
is registering domains with the live system on behalf (and most likely
exclusively) to DIRECTSEEK.COM.  If this is truly a "testbed" as Tucows
claims then any reseller should be able to request domains via this
system.  I have made such a request and I have not gotten an answer.  Am
I going to being to be allowed to submit names via this system?

I suspect these are the same people Tucows has been giving preferential
treatment to for a long time.  In the past my reseller system was
completely unusable for about an hour when domains were dropped.  When I
complained about it Charles D. would always claim he would stop the
people from flooding the system but nothing ever got done.  I had lost
numerous sales because of this in the past.  I also suspect the new
"batch" system will be "used up" by Tucows getting domains on behalf of
DIRECTSEEK.COM so I expect it will be just about useless.

Further, you have not said what happens to the domains.  Are they being
transferred directly to DIRECTSEEK.COM if they decide they want the
domain?

These are very simple questions that I have asked over, and over, and
over again.  Why can't I get a straight answer?  What are you hiding?

Also, Tucows is violation of the reseller agreement as Tucoes is not
following the posted procedure.  I also believe Tucows is violating the
ICANN agreement and a complaint has already been filed with ICANN.





 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scott Allan
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 9:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Tucows domain deletions

I can shed some light on this. We are doing some product development 
research into expired names. Recently, we have seen an increased
interest 
in this market, and we are developing some products to address it. You
can 
expect more changes (for testing purposes) to our "post-40-day" name 
handling over the coming weeks.

At this time, we hope to offer a robust broad service to our entire
channel 
in early March. You can count on hearing about it on this list once we
have 
something more concrete as a concept to test.

Regards,

sA


At 05:38 PM 12/19/01 -0500, zxcvb wrote:
>  Tucows is now taking over domains that used to be deleted from their
>system.  Below is one example for oceanis.org.  Instead of deleting a
>domain after 40 days the DNS is changed to DIRECTSEEK.COM in order to
>count the number of clicks.  Even the DNS is wildcarded so that
>*.example.com goes to the DIRECTSEEK.COM server to be counted.  I don't
>know who DIRECTSEEK.COM is.  Their web page is a search portal that
>opens up some pop-up windows and tries to change your home page.  Their
>whois records show the domain is registered through Dotster.
>
>I have asked Tucows several times if DIRECTSEEK.COM domains will be
>transferred directly to DIRECTSEEK.COM and I cannot get an answer.  If
>they were setting up a service to compete with SnapNames I can
>understand that but taking over deleted domains and counting clicks
goes
>way beyond that.  Whenever I ask about what is going on I am told it is
>a "testbed."
>
>Awhile back I had a discussion about a similar situation about domains
>which were registered and then a chargebacks were issued.  I got big
>long-winded answers from Ross Rader and Scott Allen how they didn't
want
>to violate any provisions in the ICANN contracts because they wanted to
>be around for a long time.  Now they are involved in the shenanigans
>described above and they won't give a straight answer.
>
>--
>
>  ====
>
>  WHOIS whois.opensrs.net oceanis.org:
>
>Registrant:
>
>  Tucows marked for deletion
>  96 Mowat Avenue
>  Toronto, Ontario M6K3M1
>  CA
>
>  Domain Name: OCEANIS.ORG
>
>  Administrative Contact:
>
>     Tucows,   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     96 Mowat Avenue
>     Toronto, Ontario M6K3M1
>     CA
>     416-535-0123
>
>  Technical Contact:
>     Tucows,   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     96 Mowat Avenue
>     Toronto, Ontario M6K3M1
>     CA
>     416-535-0123
>
>  Billing Contact:
>     Tucows,   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     96 Mowat Avenue
>     Toronto, Ontario M6K3M1
>     CA
>     416-535-0123
>
>  Record last updated on 17-Dec-2001.
>  Record expires on 06-Nov-2001.
>  Record Created on 06-Nov-2000.
>
>   Domain servers in listed order:
>     NS2.DIRECTSEEK.COM   216.187.118.219
>     NS1.DIRECTSEEK.COM   216.187.118.218
>
>  ===
>
>Domain names in the .com, .net, and .org domains can now be registered
>with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
>for detailed information.
>
>    Domain Name: DIRECTSEEK.COM
>    Registrar: DOTSTER, INC.
>    Whois Server: whois.dotster.com
>    Referral URL: http://www.dotster.com/help/whois
>    Name Server: NS1.DIRECTSEEK.COM
>    Name Server: NS2.DIRECTSEEK.COM
>    Updated Date: 01-dec-2001
>
>
> >>> Last update of whois database: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 05:16:44 EST <<<
>
>The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .ORG, .EDU domains and
>Registrars.
>
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
>--------
>
>WHOIS whois.dotster.com directseek.com:
>
>
>  The data contained in Dotster, Inc.'s WHOIS database, while
>believed by the company to be reliable, is provided "as is",
>with no guarantee or warranties regarding its accuracy.  This
>information is provided for the sole purpose of assisting you
>in obtaining information about domain name registration records.
>Any use of this data for any other purpose, including, but not
>limited to, allowing or making possible dissemination or
>collection of this data in part or in its entirety for any
>purpose, such as the transmission of unsolicited advertising and
>solicitations, is expressly forbidden without the prior written
>permission of Dotster, Inc. By submitting an inquiry, you agree
>to these terms of usage and limitations of warranty.
>Please limit your queries to 10 per minute and one connection.
>
>Registrant:
>    PTI
>    W.R.P.O  Box 75149
>    White Rock, BC V4B 5L3
>    CA
>
>    Registrar: Dotster (http://www.dotster.com)
>    Domain Name: DIRECTSEEK.COM
>       Created on: 16-NOV-01
>       Expires on: 13-NOV-03
>       Last Updated on: 16-NOV-01
>
>    Administrative Contact:
>       Schilling, Frank  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       PTI
>       W.R.P.O.  Box 75149
>       White Rock, BC  V4B 5L3
>       CA
>       604-536-1811
>
>    Technical Contact:
>       Schilling, Frank  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       PTI
>       W.R.P.O.  Box 75149
>       White Rock, BC  V4B 5L3
>       CA
>       604-536-1811
>
>
>    Domain servers in listed order:
>       NS1.DIRECTSEEK.COM
>       NS2.DIRECTSEEK.COM
>
>Register a domain name at www.dotster.com
>
>End of Whois Information
>
>
>
>
>

Scott Allan
Director OpenSRS
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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