There have been many complaints on this list about V$ not releasing names.

Honest people are always put at a disadvantage because of crooks.  That's 
not a good reason to be a crook, as well.

It is not ignorant to play fair -- in fact, it is the right thing to do.


At 05:35 PM 1/2/02 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>My biggest issue is the we OpenSRS resellers are not at a disadvantage.
>
>So the questions we need to know are:
>- Are other major registrars (Verisign, Register.com, Enom) not returning
>expired names to the general pool for all to gain access?
>- Are other major registrars going to stop releasing expired names to the
>general pool in the near future?
>
>If so then it would be very ignorant of OpenSRS to keep releasing names to
>the general pool while other major competitors are not. It would put us
>resellers at a distinct disadvantage.
>
>Does anyone know the answers to my questions? Ross? Charles?
>
>thanks!
>
>David
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dennis Hisey
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 4:15 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Re[2]: Scott Allen is full of x- that is way out of line
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Don Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 1:40 PM
> > Subject: RE: Re[2]: Scott Allen is full of x- that is way out of line
> >
> >
> > > Thanks, Ken.
> > >
> > > After reading the section about "autorenew" in the contract at
> > >
> > http://www.icann.org/tlds/agreements/info/registry-agmt-appc-i-26apr01.htm
> > > there is no doubt that it is a mechanism of convenience for V$ and the
> > > Registrars, rather than the tender of any type of ownership
> > rights to the
> > > Registrar.
> > >
> >
> > I read the same contact and get something completely different. (I guess
> > that's why we have lawyers.)
> > Anyway, there is no mention of why there is a grace period, only
> > that there
> > is one. There is also no mention of what can (beyond delete, renew or
> > transfer) and can't be done in that time period. The only thing
> > beyond doubt
> > is that TUCOWS has been charged money, and the name isn't available to any
> > other registrar. I would say that gives TUCOWS freedom and
> > control.........
> > at least for 45 days.
> >
> > Dennis Hisey
> >
> >
> > > At 01:15 PM 1/2/02 -0500, Ken Joy wrote:
> > > >My two cents on this one...
> > > >
> > > >I believe the only reason we have to pay for domains on expiry
> > is because
> > > >Verisign has that 'autorenew' feature on a domains
> > expiry.....some other
> > > >registries don't work that way....I think it's more a
> > comprimise that was
> > > >made when fitting the rules from the Single Registrar model
> > into the new
> > > >reality of multiple registrars...and not something we can infer
> > 'ownership'
> > > >from.
> > > >
> > > >Thanks,
> > > >
> > > >Ken
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Brody
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 1:14 PM
> > > > > To: Don Brown; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Re: Re[2]: Scott Allen is full of x- that is way
> > out of line
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > then we disagree.
> > > > >
> > > > > michael
> > > > >
> > > > > At 11:57 AM 1/2/2002 -0600, Don Brown wrote:
> > > > > >At 12:49 PM 1/2/02 -0500, Michael Brody wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>If the registrar has put up the money to hold the domain then
> > > > > don't they
> > > > > >>have some form of rights to the domain?  The registrar is in
> > > > > fact holding
> > > > > >>the domains because they have put up their money to hold
> > the names.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>michael
> > > > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >No.
> > >
> > >
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