On the subject of "playing fair" I have had two clients who have forwarded the mysterious Verisign renewal invoices to the RCMP. Having a return address of a PO Box in Fort Erie Ontario really didn't do anything for their peace of mind / feeling like the transaction was legitimate.
Also the fact that they wouldn't take anything but a credit card number was another head's up that something wasn't above board. We shall see how this all shakes out. Jack Ken Joy wrote: > Right....I can only restate that we like to play fair... > > Verisign also sends postage paid renewal notices that look a little like > invoices....and just laid off, what, half of their staff? Not the ones to > follow, I think. I am a firm believer that the industry needs sound > regulations enforced by a fair (but active) policy body. I don't think we > need all registrars agreeing to NOT play by the rules. > > Now again, this is more my feeling on the issue than anything else; we are > always examing our policies in light of movement in the industry....and > feedback from our resellers. And, keep in mind that you get your 'default > NACK' through domain locking, applied properly (and not against a > registrants wishes) > > Thanks, > > Ken > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Neil Anderson Saunders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 11:04 AM > > To: Ken Joy > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: Transfers > > > > > > On Wed, 1 May 2002, Ken Joy wrote: > > > > > By ICANN policy, it is the responsibility of the GAINING registrar (in a > > > regsitrar transfer) to obtain the transfer authority from the > > administrative > > > contact. The way the process is built, when the Regsitry > > notifies the LOSING > > > registrar of the transfer away request, they had 5 days in > > which to ACK/NACK > > > this request; taking no action implied an ACK. > > > > > > For the first year of our existence, we trusted that in the case of > > > transfers away from us, the gaining registrar had obtained the > > appropriate > > > authority, and we (like most registrars at the time) did > > nothing with this > > > 'transfer-away' notification. Eventually (maybe a year ago) we > > (in response > > > to more complaints about hijackings) built a losing-transfer messaging > > > system into the OpenSRS which would confirm the transfer-away > > request with > > > the admin contact. However, because our role as the LOSING > > registrar forbids > > > us (and we like to play fair) from NACKING a transfer-away without an > > > express command from an admin contact, if the Admin contact > > doesn't actually > > > NACK our request, we let the domain go. > > > > Hi, > > > > How is it then that VeriSign can do the opposite? Here is an example of a > > registrar transfer from VeriSign to OpenSRS send to the admin contact. It > > stats that Verisign will by default NACK any registrar transfers: > > > > >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed May 1 15:59:55 2002 > > Subject: [NIC-020430.6996] Information about your account > > > > Dear Valued VeriSign(r) Customer: > > > > You know the value of being a VeriSign(r) customer. > > We've put 6 million customers on the Web and are the > > industry leader in domain name registration and digital > > trust services, enabling everyone, everywhere to engage > > in online commerce and communications with confidence. > > > > **************************************************** > > Unsurpassed Quality and Service > > > > 24 HOUR CUSTOMER SUPPORT > > FREE access 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. > > Get help when you need it. Customer Support is available > > by phone, e-mail, and through our Web site. > > > > ONLINE MANAGEMENT TOOLS > > Manage all your services with our easy-to-use, Web-based > > interface. Set up your Web site, add additional e-mail > > boxes, modify your contact information...it's all in > > one place. > > > > **************************************************** > > > > We take every effort to protect you against unauthorized or > > fraudulent registrar changes. We've received a request to > > Change the Registrar of your domain name XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX.COM to > > another registrar. You're a valued customer, and we want > > you to remain with VeriSign. To keep your domain with > > VeriSign, no action on your part is necessary. To > > authorize a change of registrar, copy and paste the line > > below into the subject line of your return email: > > [NIC-020430.6996]:XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX.COM:565308:TRANSFER=YES > > If you don't respond within 96 hours from the time stamp of > > this email, the request to Change Registrar will be denied. > > The timestamp of this email and the time to respond are > > based on Eastern Standard Time. 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