Tom Brown wrote: > On Sat, 8 Jun 2002, Paul Andersen wrote: > > > > > Good Day All, > > > > When a domain goes from SUSP to TBR it is no longer available for > > registration by the old registrant. It will be opened for registration at > > Noon that day. The old registrant *cannot* claw it back as it is known.
With respect to you sir...I beg to differ as I have seen this happen on a couple TBR domains, the latest one was on Friday, in which a registrar told me the the previous owner was the same as the present one. I am constantly being told that the owner re-registered it at the last second. This comment is one I can not accept, therefore I have to call something devious is happening with the TBR domains. Just think, for an example if you were the original owner of the domain name dotca.ca, would you leave it to the last second to re-register it...I don't think so, but that scenario happened within the last two weeks (plus or minus). > > > > > To register a TBR domain name the registrar needs to send a TBR request > > during the TBR period which is Noon to 6PM each day. During that period > > the regular whois will show the name as 'TBR' -- the winner won't be shown > > until 6PM. I have tried that also, without success, as some registrar's on the CIRA list are not capable, or don't want to for *liability* reasons or are not sanctioned by the CIRA to do so, or are sanctioned but are unable to help other than with lame excuses after the fact. I have noticed that baremetal.com and Tucows have the ability to perform this straight forward faction and would like to ask for your assistance in performing this *miracle* the next time it comes up? My registrar has not a clue how to help me, and after 4 unsuccessful attempts in will remove my domains from that company. CIRA says I should be able to do it myself after the 6:PM deadline but at that time whois shows that the TBR domain has been registered. This happened every time to me, and I'm getting irrupted about the fruitless time consumption. The TBR system is not working for me and I ask again if some registrar on this list will help/prove that it is possible to register a TBR domain. > > > good summary. Here is another. > > 31 days after their renewal date, domain registrations are > cancelled and the domains are marked TBR (to be released). This > happens shortly after midnight (eastern time). TBR domains become > available for "TBR registration" at noon on the same day. If they > are not registered during the 6 hour "TBR registration" period, > then they are deleted completely and become available for normal > registration. > > > Your registrar also needs to do some other pre-queue work like ensuring > > that the status of the registrant is good. > > and hopefully checking that there are no conflicting domains at > another level. > > > A lot of people tend to say that the system never works for them because > > they never get any domain names. We here see quite a bit of interest and > > competition for names; and there are 80 other registrars fighting for the > > names. I am not calling *sour grapes* here, I am merely telling of my experience. I am not a soar loser, I'm just pissed at trying to acquire what I feel will be hot domains sometime in the future, without success. Frankly folks...I know something is wrong with this system from experience. > > > I don't think there are 80... but certainly between 10 and 20 that are > competent in the 'hunt for TBR registrations' game. The number of domain *hunters* is not relevant to the topic here. Competition is fine...it is the system that appears stinky. > > > > If there is a specific question I'd be happy to answer. My question is will you help me register a TBR domain, once, so I way understand the methodology to the madness of the current system. Would somebody offer to help me the next time a hot domain becomes available? > > > Ditto. And having some of these domain names should help simplify things. > Knowing the date you wanted to register it and the creation date on the > domain would clarify whether it was re-registered or someone _did_ get it > in the TBR fight... Respectfully, Graeme > > > -Tom
