>From all indications I have on this issue, this domain was re-created as part of the TBR process.
Charles Daminato OpenSRS Product Manager Tucows Inc. - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles Daminato > Sent: June 9, 2002 12:14 PM > To: Graeme > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: TBR > > > Ok... while I don't have access to the previous owner for this domain, > I'll ask around to see if I can get that for you :) Note that careers.ca > is a "nice" domain, so... > > Charles Daminato > TUCOWS Product Manager > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Sun, 9 Jun 2002, Graeme wrote: > > > Ok...thanks for your info Charles. The domain that two of us > list member were > > trying to get on Friday was careers.ca FYI. > > Thanks for the help and take care, > > > > Graeme > > > > Charles Daminato wrote: > > > > > FWIW (and as a followup to my previous email) > > > > > > I just tried to get phuck.ca, which according to CIRA was > available for > > > today's TBR window. > > > > > > I got the domain name on the second try (the first time the > interface told > > > me that today's TBR window wouldn't be opened for 1 minute > and 7 seconds) > > > > > > Please ensure that you're following the correct process. > > > > > > Charles Daminato > > > TUCOWS Product Manager > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > On Sun, 9 Jun 2002, Graeme wrote: > > > > > > > Tom Brown wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 8 Jun 2002, Paul Andersen wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Day All, > > > > > > > > > > > > When a domain goes from SUSP to TBR it is no longer > available for > > > > > > registration by the old registrant. It will be opened for > > > > registration at > > > > > > Noon that day. The old registrant *cannot* claw it back as it is > > > > known. > > > > > > > > With respect to you sir...I beg to differ as I have seen > this happen on > > > > a couple > > > > TBR domains, the latest one was on Friday, in which a > registrar told me > > > > the the > > > > previous owner was the same as the present one. I am > constantly being > > > > told that > > > > the owner re-registered it at the last second. This comment > is one I can > > > > not > > > > accept, therefore I have to call something devious is > happening with the > > > > TBR > > > > domains. Just think, for an example if you were the > original owner of > > > > the domain > > > > name dotca.ca, would you leave it to the last second to re-register > > > > it...I don't > > > > think so, but that scenario happened within the last two > weeks (plus or > > > > minus). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To register a TBR domain name the registrar needs to > send a TBR > > > > request > > > > > > during the TBR period which is Noon to 6PM each day. During that > > > > period > > > > > > the regular whois will show the name as 'TBR' -- the > winner won't be > > > > shown > > > > > > until 6PM. > > > > > > > > I have tried that also, without success, as some > registrar's on the CIRA > > > > list > > > > are not capable, or don't want to for *liability* reasons or are not > > > > sanctioned > > > > by the CIRA to do so, or are sanctioned but are unable to help other > > > > than with > > > > lame excuses after the fact. I have noticed that baremetal.com and > > > > Tucows have > > > > the ability to perform this straight forward faction and > would like to > > > > ask for > > > > your assistance in performing this *miracle* the next time > it comes up? > > > > My > > > > registrar has not a clue how to help me, and after 4 unsuccessful > > > > attempts in > > > > will remove my domains from that company. CIRA says I > should be able to > > > > do it > > > > myself after the 6:PM deadline but at that time whois shows > that the TBR > > > > domain > > > > has been registered. This happened every time to me, and I'm getting > > > > irrupted > > > > about the fruitless time consumption. The TBR system is not > working for > > > > me and I > > > > ask again if some registrar on this list will help/prove that it is > > > > possible to > > > > register a TBR domain. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good summary. Here is another. > > > > > > > > > > 31 days after their renewal date, domain registrations are > > > > > cancelled and the domains are marked TBR (to be released). This > > > > > happens shortly after midnight (eastern time). TBR > domains become > > > > > available for "TBR registration" at noon on the same > day. If they > > > > > are not registered during the 6 hour "TBR registration" period, > > > > > then they are deleted completely and become available > for normal > > > > > registration. > > > > > > > > > > > Your registrar also needs to do some other pre-queue work like > > > > ensuring > > > > > > that the status of the registrant is good. > > > > > > > > > > and hopefully checking that there are no conflicting domains at > > > > > another level. > > > > > > > > > > > A lot of people tend to say that the system never > works for them > > > > because > > > > > > they never get any domain names. We here see quite a > bit of interest > > > > and > > > > > > competition for names; and there are 80 other > registrars fighting > > > > for the > > > > > > names. > > > > > > > > I am not calling *sour grapes* here, I am merely telling of my > > > > experience. I am > > > > not a soar loser, I'm just pissed at trying to acquire what > I feel will > > > > be hot > > > > domains sometime in the future, without success. Frankly > folks...I know > > > > something is wrong with this system from experience. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think there are 80... but certainly between 10 > and 20 that are > > > > > > > > > competent in the 'hunt for TBR registrations' game. > > > > > > > > The number of domain *hunters* is not relevant to the topic here. > > > > Competition is > > > > fine...it is the system that appears stinky. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is a specific question I'd be happy to answer. > > > > > > > > My question is will you help me register a TBR domain, > once, so I way > > > > understand > > > > the methodology to the madness of the current system. Would somebody > > > > offer to > > > > help me the next time a hot domain becomes available? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ditto. And having some of these domain names should help simplify > > > > things. > > > > > Knowing the date you wanted to register it and the > creation date on > > > > the > > > > > domain would clarify whether it was re-registered or > someone _did_ get > > > > it > > > > > in the TBR fight... > > > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > > > > Graeme > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
