FWIW (and as a followup to my previous email)

I just tried to get phuck.ca, which according to CIRA was available for
today's TBR window.

I got the domain name on the second try (the first time the interface told
me that today's TBR window wouldn't be opened for 1 minute and 7 seconds)

Please ensure that you're following the correct process.

Charles Daminato
TUCOWS Product Manager
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 9 Jun 2002, Graeme wrote:

> Tom Brown wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 8 Jun 2002, Paul Andersen wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Good Day All,
> > >
> > >   When a domain goes from SUSP to TBR it is no longer available for
> > > registration by the old registrant. It will be opened for
> registration at
> > > Noon that day. The old registrant *cannot* claw it back as it is
> known.
>
> With respect to you sir...I beg to differ as I have seen this happen on
> a couple
> TBR domains, the latest one was on Friday, in which a registrar told me
> the the
> previous owner was the same as the present one. I am constantly being
> told that
> the owner re-registered it at the last second. This comment is one I can
> not
> accept, therefore I have to call something devious is happening with the
> TBR
> domains. Just think, for an example if you were the original owner of
> the domain
> name dotca.ca, would you leave it to the last second to re-register
> it...I don't
> think so, but that scenario happened within the last two weeks (plus or
> minus).
>
> >
> > >
> > >   To register a TBR domain name the registrar needs to send a TBR
> request
> > > during the TBR period which is Noon to 6PM each day. During that
> period
> > > the regular whois will show the name as 'TBR' -- the winner won't be
> shown
> > > until 6PM.
>
> I have tried that also, without success, as some registrar's on the CIRA
> list
> are not capable, or don't want to for *liability* reasons or are not
> sanctioned
> by the CIRA to do so, or are sanctioned but are unable to help other
> than with
> lame excuses after the fact. I have noticed that baremetal.com and
> Tucows have
> the ability to perform this straight forward faction and would like to
> ask for
> your assistance in performing this *miracle* the next time it comes up?
> My
> registrar has not a clue how to help me, and after 4 unsuccessful
> attempts in
> will remove my domains from that company. CIRA says I should be able to
> do it
> myself after the 6:PM deadline but at that time whois shows that the TBR
> domain
> has been registered. This happened every time to me, and I'm getting
> irrupted
> about the fruitless time consumption. The TBR system is not working for
> me and I
> ask again if some registrar on this list will help/prove that it is
> possible to
> register a TBR domain.
>
> >
> >
> > good summary. Here is another.
> >
> >    31 days after their renewal date, domain registrations are
> >    cancelled and the domains are marked TBR (to be released). This
> >    happens shortly after midnight (eastern time). TBR domains become
> >    available for "TBR registration" at noon on the same day. If they
> >    are not registered during the 6 hour "TBR registration" period,
> >    then they are deleted completely and become available for normal
> >    registration.
> >
> > >   Your registrar also needs to do some other pre-queue work like
> ensuring
> > > that the status of the registrant is good.
> >
> > and hopefully checking that there are no conflicting domains at
> > another level.
> >
> > >   A lot of people tend to say that the system never works for them
> because
> > > they never get any domain names. We here see quite a bit of interest
> and
> > > competition for names; and there are 80 other registrars fighting
> for the
> > > names.
>
> I am not calling *sour grapes* here, I am merely telling of my
> experience. I am
> not a soar loser, I'm just pissed at trying to acquire what I feel will
> be hot
> domains sometime in the future, without success. Frankly folks...I know
> something is wrong with this system from experience.
>
> >
> >
> > I don't think there are 80... but certainly between 10 and 20 that are
>
> > competent in the 'hunt for TBR registrations' game.
>
> The number of domain *hunters* is not relevant to the topic here.
> Competition is
> fine...it is the system that appears stinky.
>
> >
> >
> > >   If there is a specific question I'd be happy to answer.
>
> My question is will you help me register a TBR domain, once, so I way
> understand
> the methodology to the madness of the current system. Would somebody
> offer to
> help me the next time a hot domain becomes available?
>
> >
> >
> > Ditto. And having some of these domain names should help simplify
> things.
> > Knowing the date you wanted to register it and the creation date on
> the
> > domain would clarify whether it was re-registered or someone _did_ get
> it
> > in the TBR fight...
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Graeme
>
> >
> >
> > -Tom
>
>
>
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