Michael - you're contribution to this list over the past three years has
consistently been less than productive for all participants. While I respect
your right to participate, stay, leave etc., I do not appreciate the
continuous implications of your messages. In the future, please stick to
your facts or, find a list that is moderated in a manner more suitable to
the rhetoric you choose to use to distract this one with.
-rwr
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Dean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ezgoing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Chuck Hatcher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WebWiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
"discuss-list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: Referral List AND alternative wholesalers with better offerings
> The issues are very simple. Opensrs has chosen to bury referrals rather
> than fairly advertise them on their websites. Thats because they are in
> direct competition with their resellers. I want opensrs to have at
> least a one inch square hot button called 100% Resellers List on all
> their sites. They Opensrs/Tucows,of course, will refuse to do so,
> because they are serving their own interests, which are in conflict with
> our interests and ends.
>
> Second, they have chosen to only show 3 resellers at a time, and these 3
> are offered over and over again, and small resellers zre denied this
> opportunity. I believe that the difference in price small resellers pay
> as opposed to the large resellers is sufficient such that we should be
> treated equally in this matter. One large alphabetical list that the
> customer can download and explore. Who cares if the list is solicited
> by competitors. If a competitor gives me better service, I will go with
> them. Opensrs/Tucows will not do this because of their interests,
> again, which are in conflict to those of its resellers.
>
> Third, for my business, I want to explore all possible sources of
> revenue, not be patronistically told, oh that doesn't work anyway. It
> is time resellers throughout the world rose up against its Tucow
> predators and took matters into their own hands.
>
> Fourth, why is South America blocked out of the referral lists? If I
> can sell domains to filipinos and Indians, why can't I sell to
> Brazillians? Why is that area blocked out? What side deals has Tucows
> set up to our disadvantage?
>
> I am definitely exploring lower cost alternatives like www.godaddy.com,
> which comes highly recommended by my peers in California.
>
> ezgoing wrote:
>
> >In this case it is entirely a matter of perception. "Those who are
listed"
> >apparently have one perception of the value of being listed and "Those
who
> >are not listed" have a different perception of the value of being
listed.
> >At least a different publicly stated perception of the value of being
> >listed. :)
> >
> >Small resellers see the referral list as being valuable and a service
being
> >unfairly denied to them by OpenSRS in favor of a few big resellers. This
> >issue is turning into a issue of trust and fair treatment more than a
source
> >of new business.
> >
> >Since so many, including OpenSRS, insists the referral list has no value
> >and is virtually worthless as a source of new business why doesn't
OpenSRS
> >just go back to the old policy of listing everybody and putting this
issue
> >to bed? This would make the small resellers happy again and would not
hurt
> >the large resellers as it does not provide them much in the way of new
> >business. (If it is true that it does not generate much business, which I
do
> >not know)
> >
> >The fact that OpenSRS will not do this and the fact that certain
individuals
> >keep posting how worthless the referral list is as a source of customers
> >just fuels the perception of small resellers that the list is indeed a
good
> >source of referrals that is unfairly being denied them.
> >
> >These denials just deepen the mistrust of OpenSRS by part of it's small
> >reseller community. Given all the alternatives for resellers in today's
> >market this issue can turn into a real loser for OpenSRS if they continue
> >the current policy of favoring a few resellers with the referral listing.
> >
> >And as I have stated previously, I have no interested in being added to
the
> >referral list.
> >
> >And I too am tired of seeing this issue debated and would like to see it
put
> >to rest but I can understand the frustration of those who wish to be
listed
> >and feel they are not being treated fairly.
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Chuck Hatcher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "WebWiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "discuss-list"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 6:23 AM
> >Subject: Re: Referral List
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>>IMHO, the reseller list and any "issue" about who is or
> >>>isn't on it is a red herring.
> >>>
> >>>Regards,
> >>>Eric Longman
> >>>Atl-Connect Internet Services
> >>>
> >>>
> >>You're right, Eric. It really isn't the reseller list, it's the
> >>relationship between Tucows and the small reseller. The real issue is
the
> >>perception by some resellers of unfair treatment, and the responsiveness
> >>
> >>
> >of
> >
> >
> >>Tucows to listen and deal with the problem.
> >>
> >>Even if the referral list is worthless, why should small resellers be
> >>excluded? And if it is only nearly worthless (i.e. if it only results
in
> >>
> >>
> >a
> >
> >
> >>tiny number of new prospects), wouldn't that be of relatively greater
> >>
> >>
> >value
> >
> >
> >>to a small company than a large one? And if it is of such small value,
> >>
> >>
> >and
> >
> >
> >>so controversial, why not do away with it altogether?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
