I just went to this conference held at UC Berkeley: http://www.ischool.berkeley.edu/newsandevents/events/20090828googlebooksconference
Some of the main voices criticizing the settlement were indeed Samuelson, but also Peter Brantley from Internet Archive, Geoffrey Nunberg of UCB's ischool and NPR fame, the Samuelson Clinic's Director Jason Schultz, and James Love from Knowledge Ecology International. I thought James Love and Pam Samuelson very eloquent on the subject. Geoffrey Nunberg feared that google books would become the "last library" -- for many reasons, including the fact that the high cost for scanning books will probably not be undertaken again, so these are the digitial copies we'll be using for quite some time, and also there are a number of problems with the ways in which google organizes and displays book data (which he claims is insufficient compared to library standards). I meant to put together a blog post about the event and about the Google Settlement in general for the SFC blog, but alas, the woes of being a full-time student. Let me know if anyone wants a more detailed outline of the talk, if so maybe I'll throw something short together. - Matt FC @ Berkeley Kevin Donovan wrote: > I think it might be a good idea to reach out to some of the most vocal > observers (pro- and anti-settlement) and ask them for short pieces on > why students should care. We can feature these on the blog. > > Anyone have names? I'd start with Grimmelman and Pam Samuelson. > Others? And does anyone have relationships with them to reach out to them? > > On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Elizabeth Stark <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > And the post is authored by our friend Derek Slater... > > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Alex Kozak > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > > I don't think we have. I know a lot of people have strong > feelings about it. Thinking strategically without getting into > the settlement, I think we should as much as possible try to > be pragmatic about it and only object or support specific > ideas or terms rather than support or challenge it wholesale. > > In my personal opinion, it's also particularly important that > we don't frame the issue in terms of tired worn out > commitments and ideologies (specifically, for-profit vs. > non-profit or commercial vs. non-commercial). What do you all > think though? > > - Alex > > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Gavin Baker > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > http://googlepublicpolicy.blogspot.com/2009/09/voices-of-support-for-google-books.html > > "Yesterday, we took part in another call with even more > groups, > including the ... United States Students Association and > others, who > together voiced their support for the [Google Books] > agreement." > > Have other student groups (e.g. SFC) weighed in on the > Google Books > settlement? > > -- > Gavin Baker > http://www.gavinbaker.com/ > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > We must learn to live together as brothers or perish > together as fools. > Martin Luther King, Jr. > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > > -- > Alex Kozak > Education Program Assistant > ccLearn, Creative Commons > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > > -- > Kevin Donovan > Georgetown '11: SFS > SA Phone: 082.311.8512 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list [email protected] http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss
